To: NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; Brad's Gramma; ...
This seems major to me....
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; ...
3 posted on
01/18/2011 7:25:28 PM PST by
steelyourfaith
(ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Interesting. Yup, how do you get three significant digits for “global temperature”, especially prior to 1945?
In my world, everything has error bars, even when I count upsets in an SRAM.
4 posted on
01/18/2011 7:30:34 PM PST by
DBrow
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
To make the long story short, it turned out that no one had ever surveyed the temperature sensors of climate stations to see whether the assumption of uniformly iid measurement errors could be empirically validated interesting..thanks
To: All
More from the comments:
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Geoff Sherrington Says:
There is further error measurement by Jane Warne of BOM at Broadmeadows, N of Melbourne
http://www.geoffstuff.com/Jane%20Warne%20thermometry%20Broadmeadows.pdf
There is a quite fundamental question which I have never seen addressed. In the reconciliation with temperatures over the land or sea surface, should on measure 1 mm, 1 cm, 1 m, 1 km or 10 km above the surce, or at some intermediate value determined by experiment?
If the experiment has been done, what was its purpose and how was it established as the right altitude?
It seems that we are adopting initial conditions for complicated model projections like GCMs based on the convenience of being able to read a thermometer at about eye level.
Is that a scientific approach?
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I don’t even know where to stick the thermometer.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
All these things must be given to those that potentially can control the outcome of this administration's hell bent mission to cripple the United States Economy and future industrial complex even more so then they already are doing.
Namely. Members of the US HR and Senate who are willing to have their staffs carefully absorb all that is becoming available. And hopefully the outpourings of concerned and now better educated people in all western nations will do likewise. Their very existence as free peoples that have a few bucks in their pockets are just as much stake as American's wallets are.
16 posted on
01/18/2011 8:07:33 PM PST by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Stick a thermometer in Massachusetts.
17 posted on
01/18/2011 8:35:45 PM PST by
Beowulf9
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
19 posted on
01/18/2011 9:27:46 PM PST by
ADemocratNoMore
(Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
OMG! My Grant Money Likelyhood Indicator has flatlined!
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
20 posted on
01/18/2011 9:34:56 PM PST by
The Comedian
("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The assumption was that all the instrumental error was random, independent, identically distributed (iid) error.And to think the U.S. already blew over $80 billion on this precautionary hypothesis, and they want to hamstring this lame economy further with expensive energy. By these standards, Jared Loughner is probably sane.
21 posted on
01/18/2011 10:05:51 PM PST by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Wow, those 120 year old sensors must have been built well. ;') Thanks Ernest!
23 posted on
01/22/2011 3:56:02 AM PST by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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