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Pa. town above mine fire asks US courts for help
hosted ^ | Oct 29 | MICHAEL RUBINKAM

Posted on 10/29/2010 2:59:51 PM PDT by JoeProBono

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) -- Residents of a central Pennsylvania coal town decimated by a mine fire have gone to federal court to try to prevent state officials from evicting them....

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To: kearnyirish2

I would say about 65 miles west. You would get off the Bloomsburg exit and head towards Elysburg. I see the sign for Centralia when we go to Knobles amusement park. It’s in Colombia County.


21 posted on 10/29/2010 4:41:37 PM PDT by angcat (YANKEES, YANKEES, YANKEES)
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To: kearnyirish2

http://www.offroaders.com/album/centralia/centralia.htm


22 posted on 10/29/2010 4:42:26 PM PDT by angcat (YANKEES, YANKEES, YANKEES)
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To: mowowie

There’s a similar, smaller place on the Hudson River: Doodletown, NY. The state used eminent domain to move the people out (I believe the last ones left in 1965) to build some kind of ski area (attached to Bear Mountain/Harriman State Parks). The ski area was never built, the houses and school were razed, and it is now part of the park (with 2 functioning cemeteries that were not taken over by the park). I believe the surviving residents may be the only people allowed to be buried there at this point; since it is surrounded by the park, they have to unlock gates to allow vehicle traffic. Sad end to a place that was settled prior to independence, one of the roads used by British troops in 1777 is still there (along with one of the oldest trees I’ve ever seen). One other cemetery was so old it has actually disappeared.


23 posted on 10/29/2010 4:43:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Lurker

that was one bizarre and creepy movie.


24 posted on 10/29/2010 4:44:21 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: angcat

Knobles, my cousins kids work there.


25 posted on 10/29/2010 4:45:02 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: bmwcyle
The kids love it. When I got to Knobels I am an instant 10! I have never seen so many freaks. My husband said he has nightmares when he returns home.
26 posted on 10/29/2010 4:47:25 PM PDT by angcat (YANKEES, YANKEES, YANKEES)
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To: angcat

Thanks; I’d like to see it while there’s anything left to see. I’ve hiked to places (some not so out-of-the-way) where you get the feeling that you may be one of the last people that will see something (particularly with old cemeteries, where sinking stones are already disappearing). The only remaining vestiges of Undercliff (along the Hudson River in NJ) and Baileytown, NY, are cemeteries like this.

I’ve taken pictures of those stones that are legible (sadly, too few) because you really get the impression they have 5 years more at best...


27 posted on 10/29/2010 4:49:48 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

60-90 mins. or Rt.309 to 54 to 61 or Allentown to Hometown to Ashland


28 posted on 10/29/2010 4:50:35 PM PDT by RedwM
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To: angcat

I use to go there in the 1960’s. I was not crowded like it is today. We would cook burgers and get fries at the Alamo.


29 posted on 10/29/2010 4:53:31 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: kearnyirish2

80 is north on RT54 by about thirty miles or so.


30 posted on 10/29/2010 4:53:56 PM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: kearnyirish2
When I was young we would spend every Sunday in the summer at Lake Land Acres in Peekskill NY. They had some very old cemeteries that we would go in are read the stones and look at the pictures. Very interesting.
31 posted on 10/29/2010 4:54:38 PM PDT by angcat (YANKEES, YANKEES, YANKEES)
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To: bmwcyle
It is still free admission and parking but as everything else the ticket prices for the rides have gone up and the food but you still can't complain because it is very rare to find a place like that today.
32 posted on 10/29/2010 4:58:13 PM PDT by angcat (YANKEES, YANKEES, YANKEES)
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To: angcat

That’s a great link; thanks. Were people still living in the area you visited, or were they abandoned?


33 posted on 10/29/2010 5:06:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Cheetahcat

There are probably good technical reasons for not flooding the mine. However, that being said, an alternative might be to pump extremely cold inert gas into the mine. An excellent alternative would be liquid argon, at around -300F.

It is an abundant gas, there is more argon than CO2 in the atmosphere, so the great difficulty would be in cooling it until it becomes very cold gas. The best bet would probably to build a facility for just that purpose, powered by a portable nuclear reactor.


34 posted on 10/29/2010 5:34:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: kearnyirish2
I never went near that area I just saw the sign I think a few people still live there including the mayor lol. I would never go near that place don't want to breath in the toxic air.
35 posted on 10/29/2010 5:36:47 PM PDT by angcat (YANKEES, YANKEES, YANKEES)
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To: RedwM

Thank you very much; I appreciate it.


36 posted on 10/29/2010 5:41:04 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Safetgiver

Thanks for your help; it seems to be between 2 and 3 hours west of me.


37 posted on 10/29/2010 5:41:58 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
“There are probably good technical reasons for not flooding the mine. However, that being said, an alternative might be to pump extremely cold inert gas into the mine. An excellent alternative would be liquid argon, at around -300F.

It is an abundant gas, there is more argon than CO2 in the atmosphere, so the great difficulty would be in cooling it until it becomes very cold gas. The best bet would probably to build a facility for just that purpose, powered by a portable nuclear reactor.”

Excellent Idea that would be a good fix for that problem and save a lot of valuable hard coal.

38 posted on 10/29/2010 5:42:59 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Cheetahcat

When the BP oil spill was going full blast and it looked like it would never get capped, I posted that it would probably leak on forever and we would just get used to it, like the Centralia Mine Fire.


39 posted on 10/29/2010 5:56:05 PM PDT by sportutegrl (Why are they called Musketeers if they fight with swords?)
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To: sportutegrl

“When the BP oil spill was going full blast and it looked like it would never get capped, I posted that it would probably leak on forever and we would just get used to it, like the Centralia Mine Fire.”

Yes the spill was a mile down and very difficult for a while but they stopped it, the fire can be handled as well with the right people.


40 posted on 10/29/2010 6:02:29 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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