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Marine Accused Of Throwing Kitten at Wall
NBC San Diego ^ | Wed, Jul 28, 2010 | ERIC S. PAGE

Posted on 07/28/2010 11:02:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway

A U.S. Marine who allegedly hurled a kitten 15 feet against a wall is due in court Thursday on, authorities said.

Fernando Pacheco, 27, was at a friend's home in midtown San Diego last June when the kitten either bit or scratched him, according to San Diego Humane Society officials. Pacheco allegedly threw the animal across a patio and into a wall, breaking its leg. The then-4-month-old cat also suffered head trauma, and its eyes and nose were bloodied as well.

Cullen the cat has recovered completely, according to the humane society, but the cat's owner incurred more than $5,000 in veterinary bills.

Humane society officials said they recently sent the results of their investigation to the district attorney's office after a long investigation.

Pacheco is scheduled to be in court Thursday afternoon to face animal cruelty charges, according to an official with the district attorney's office.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: kitty; marines
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To: arthurus

“No creature bites or scratches without provocation.”

Hmmm. When my cat whom I grew very fond of was youngish, he would (like all cats) climb up on my bed to wake me up to feed him. I never minded that, but once, exactly once, he tried to wake me up by pawing at one of my closed eyes, and he clawed my eyelid very slightly.

But this was a behavior I was not about to tolerate, so I got a palm under him and threw him pretty hard across the room.

Thereafter he never had any hesitation to wake me up for the morning feed, and he would meow with his mouth closed, which was kind of funny, kind of like humming in cat-land, but he never clawed at my eyelid again.


21 posted on 07/29/2010 12:49:37 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: nickcarraway

He ought to pay the vet fees.


22 posted on 07/29/2010 1:11:02 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: arthurus

My wife’s got a deep infected scratch on her hand right now. The cat was sleeping on top of her while she was asleep. I was laying alongside with a book, had been for an hour. With no preceding incidents, the cat literally flipped then took off to the floor on far side of the bed, where she sat staring into vacant space.

My wife then muzzily held her hand out to me and said, “Am I bleeding?”

Some common sources of “provocation” around here:
-You looked like a good source of traction.
-Racing across your sleeping face, all claws out, seemed like the best way to convince you that 3am really =is= play time.
-There were Artesians in the wall just now. No, really!
-You were vertical. Cats come with crampons.
-You were imitating a stepladder while next to the bookshelf they want to scale.
-Primary means for provoking cat bites and scratches: You weren’t paying enough attention to the cat! Look at the cat!

I’ve been beaten up by all sorts of critters through my life, from pets and livestock to wildlife. Statements like “they only do it if provoked” are silly and poison the use of reason in discussion.

Animals do all sorts of things. Like humans, there’s often little logic to it.


23 posted on 07/29/2010 1:23:20 AM PDT by saundby
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To: nickcarraway
We're spending even a single cent prosecuting a Marine for throwing a f***ing CAT? The sentiMENTAL animal whackos are running the asylum - a few are obviously members of this very forum.

The Marine should be commended, as he was kind enough to let the thing live after it bit him. If some nasty cat were to do the same to me, I'd stomp its lights out on the spot.

24 posted on 07/29/2010 2:19:10 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

Lighten up, Francis. It’s a four month old kitten.


25 posted on 07/29/2010 3:03:12 AM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: torchthemummy

Exactly! Journalism is all agenda driven and it’s not even subtle anymore.


26 posted on 07/29/2010 3:40:46 AM PDT by Pete (exponential problems require exponential solutions : 29thday.org)
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To: torchthemummy

“What does the fact that this guy was a marine have to do with anything? Nothing, of course, unless you want to perpetuate the stereotype that military service/warfare more often than not results in psychopathic, violent behavior.”

That’s exactly the reason—mean ol’ Marine abusing a poor little putty-tat. I love animals, too, but what he did probably was a reflex action. I was out walking one day when a neighbor’s dog sneaked up behind me and licked my hand. I hadn’t seen him come up and drew my arm back instinctively. I did not touch the dog, but my action scared him so badly that he ran off.


27 posted on 07/29/2010 3:50:01 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: nickcarraway

There’s just something about a pussy and a marine.


28 posted on 07/29/2010 5:23:02 AM PDT by IbJensen ((Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: nickcarraway
My one-year-old cat attacked me. I still have the scars. I stuffed him in a hamper, took him to the vet, and had his canine teeth removed. He's ten years old now and bites just as hard, so hard in fact that his jaw vibrates, but it's pointless-literally. It's funny to watch him realize he is having no effect and give up.
29 posted on 07/29/2010 6:43:51 AM PDT by Excellence ("A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.")
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I don’t necessarily think this guy needs to be thrown in jail for years or anything that brutal, but he should be made to pay for what he’s done, and I hope his superior has a heart-to-heart with him to set him straight.

Kittens are stupid, all-id animals, and will often tear-ass around because they’re young and they can, and it probably feels great! This guy is a marine. He is combat-trained, so if the bite or scratch from a kitten is enough to make him throw it so hard that the bones break, he’s not military material.

I’m a petite woman, and I recently (four months ago) saved a cat from four dogs trying to rip it apart, suffering bites from both the dogs and the cat. That cat bit through my thumb and nail, taking time to dig its long front tooth right in there, while it held onto my arm with every claw, seemingly relishing the pain it was causing me as I escorted it away from the dogs that would surely be its demise. I didn’t throw the darn thing, though I wanted to. I set it gently down and waited for it to release its grip on me, while I bled all over it. I’m not combat-trained, but I’m also not a hot-headed pos willing to throw a tantrum over a little blood.


30 posted on 07/29/2010 9:20:29 AM PDT by solosmoke
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To: phelix
A cat - and especially a kitten - does not scratch or bite someone unprovoked.

You've never been within a 100 yds of a cat or kitten have you?

31 posted on 07/29/2010 11:59:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: saundby
Now you are someone who knows cats. LOL
32 posted on 07/29/2010 12:03:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye
You've never been within a 100 yds of a cat or kitten have you?

I have over 45 years experience with cats and kittens - both feral and domesticated. I currently have many cats who were at one time feral. Some are still semi-feral. What is YOUR experience with cats?
33 posted on 07/29/2010 12:25:07 PM PDT by phelix
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To: phelix
A cat - and especially a kitten - does not scratch or bite someone unprovoked.

If you know cats then you shouldn't have written such an absurd lie.

34 posted on 07/29/2010 12:36:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye
If you know cats then you shouldn't have written such an absurd lie.

Coming from someone who is in support of those who cause pain and harm to small animals - I will give that statement about as much credence as is due. Apparently cats do not like you. Often creatures have good instincts about people.
35 posted on 07/29/2010 12:46:41 PM PDT by phelix
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To: phelix

I might have expected you to put words in my mouth after using a lie in the first place. I had my first cat 50 years ago and animals in general love me. Always have.


36 posted on 07/29/2010 12:49:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: TigersEye

We need comprehensive pet medical insurance reform. Who can afford $5,000 vet bills for a kitteh?


37 posted on 07/29/2010 1:16:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: a fool in paradise

It’s probably already buried in the 0bamaCare bill we’ve gotten. Some utterly vague language that’s just waiting for a bit of creative bureaucratic interpretation.


38 posted on 07/29/2010 1:37:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

They should kick him out of the Corps so he can go be a civilian cop and shoot other people’s dogs at will without worrying about the recriminations.


39 posted on 07/29/2010 1:43:51 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: TigersEye

It is one thing to disagree with a person - but to accuse that person of lying, attacking their honor and integrity, just because you do not agree with them...?

If a cat has phase 3 rabies - it might attack unprovoked. A cat may inadvertently scratch a person just trying to climb into their lap. Often, a cat or kitten will be meaning to play and inadvertently scratch or bite a person not meaning to harm them. I do not consider incidents such as these to be unprovoked attacks. Other times, the cat may feel threatened because it was picked up against its will or frightened in some way - and it has a normal, instinctual reaction. In my view, that does not justify the kind of violence allegedly displayed by this marine.

What is this young man going to do when he has small children who do something that annoys or irritates him? Will he try to throw them against the wall too? No amount of training can give this man discipline, good judgment, or decency.

Many may not agree with me (I won’t be calling them liars, BTW) - but I do not believe there is any justification for this behavior. I think there should be stiff penalties for animal cruelty that are enforced to the full extent of the law.


40 posted on 07/29/2010 2:48:37 PM PDT by phelix
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