AMMO

Me | 10/09/09 | Firetalker

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AMMO

[firetalker]

Yes I can tell you Remington sucks, they don’t stand behind their products, 3 weeks ago I was firing some of their 22 cal game loads with my Grand son in his Crickett Rifle, I asked him to let me shoot it, and on the second shot, the cartridge exploded through the back where the firing pin strikes it and all most put my eye out, even with my glasses on, upon examining the casing their was a small hole through the back just below the dent left by the firing pin, so I then examined the brass from earlier shots and found they all had a small bulge where the firing pin makes contact with the rim, so my first thought was it was a rifle problem, so I have 2 more Crickett rifles hear so I tried the ammo in them , and found the same problem, so I then went to my ammo box and pulled out a box of CCI mini mags, some Federal Golden Eagles, and some cheep Winchesters from Wally world, and all this ammo worked fine in all three rifles, no powder burns on the out side of the casings, and all had a dent where the firing pin strikes not a bulge like the Remington’s, so being puzzled I then called Remington, and Crickett arms, Remington wanted the exploded brass back and any ammo I had left, and Crickett wanted the gun back for testing, it all sounded great, maybe some one was going to pay for my emergency room , call and my visit the next day to the eye spiciest, and maybe I might even get something for my 7 days on pain killers and lost time, yea right. I will have to say Crickett was great about it all, within 5 days they had the rifle done their test, fired 200 rounds of Federal ammo through it, that’s all they use their, and found no problems with the rifle, but I expected that as it was 4 years old and has shot at least 700 rounds with out as much as a miss fire, and I had all ready tested it with other brands of ammo and had no problems, but anyway Crickett wanted to keep the Rifle because they were afraid it might have received some unseen stress and they didn’t want to take a chance on a child ever firing it again, so they sent me a brand new Rifle for my Grand son, and all so included a scope for free for our trouble. When the new rifle arrived I took it out back and lined it up and shot 50 rounds of Golden Eagle 22 LR through it, inspecting every bit of brass for anything out of the norm and every thing was great, so having another box of this Remington 22 Game load 22 LR ammo I kept for my own testing with the same lot number as I sent back to Remington, decided to try some in this new Rifle, the first shot looked fine, clean brass, dent in the rim, no problems, the second shot sounded a little funny, I ejected the brass and found a 1/4 inch split up the side of the casing, the third shot, the brass showed signs of excessive heat to where the case had turned from brass color to that of steal, the fourth showed black powder burns all around the out side of the casing. I then cleaned the new Crickett, fired 4 CCI mini mags , 4 Golden Eagles , and 4 Winchesters through it and they all worked fine, so every thing I have learned in my 40 years of reloading, and 15 years as firearms dealer is telling me this ammo is junk, but I cant hear that from Remington because by this time its been 2 weeks and they haven’t tested it yet, but finely after the threat of a law suit, they have the nerve to call me back, said they tested 31 rounds I sent them for Velocity and pressure, and they were all with in specs, they said they had a Cricket Rifle their but never tried any of the ammo in it, and the way it was made they thought the accident was caused by the firing pin and the Rifle company was at fault, when I explained to them the rifle had all ready been tested and was fine, and I had another cartridge that split down the side this time and had nothing to do with the firing pin, they had no excuse, and wanted me to send them all the ammo I had left so they could test the brass this time, I said yea right send you all the proof I have left, I guess not, I told them go call the sporting good store where I bought it and have them send you some, its still on the shelf where other people and CHILDREN can get hurt. Three different ammo dealers have seen these cartridges after firing and they all say anyone can see its the ammo when compared to other brands and they all say they have always had a problem getting Remington to stand behind their products, 2 of them told me they wont even stock Remington products unless some one ask for them, and they tell people when they order a Remington Rifle that they are not responsible for Remington’s warranty being honored. P.S. Oh yes I must give Remington credit where it is due, they did offer me a coupon for a new box of ammo, very big of them after $1,000.00 in medical bills and a week of taking pain killers.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

WelcomeTo FreeRepublic!

[NMEwithin]

I agree...Remington does not make good .22 ammo

I stick with the CCI mini-mags...quality product.

[GRRRRR]

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[wastedyears]

IBTZ?

[robomatik]

"...maybe some one was going to pay for my emergency room , call and my visit the next day to the eye spiciest, and ..."

speaking of an "eye spiciest," i need one after reading your post.

(paragraphs are your friend)
welcome to F.R.

[GRRRRR]

Yes I can tell you Remington sucks, they don’t stand behind their products, 3 weeks ago I was firing some of their 22 cal game loads with my Grand son in his Crickett Rifle, I asked him to let me shoot it, and on the second shot, the cartridge exploded through the back where the firing pin strikes it and all most put my eye out, even with my glasses on, upon examining the casing their was a small hole through the back just below the dent left by the firing pin, so I then examined the brass from earlier shots and found they all had a small bulge where the firing pin makes contact with the rim, so my first thought was it was a rifle problem, so I have 2 more Crickett rifles hear so I tried the ammo in them , and found the same problem, so I then went to my ammo box and pulled out a box of CCI mini mags, some Federal Golden Eagles, and some cheep Winchesters from Wally world, and all this ammo worked fine in all three rifles, no powder burns on the out side of the casings, and all had a dent where the firing pin strikes not a bulge like the Remington’s, so being puzzled I then called Remington, and Crickett arms, Remington wanted the exploded brass back and any ammo I had left, and Crickett wanted the gun back for testing, it all sounded great, maybe some one was going to pay for my emergency room , call and my visit the next day to the eye spiciest, and maybe I might even get something for my 7 days on pain killers and lost time, yea right.

I will have to say Crickett was great about it all, within 5 days they had the rifle done their test, fired 200 rounds of Federal ammo through it, that’s all they use their, and found no problems with the rifle, but I expected that as it was 4 years old and has shot at least 700 rounds with out as much as a miss fire, and I had all ready tested it with other brands of ammo and had no problems, but anyway Crickett wanted to keep the Rifle because they were afraid it might have received some unseen stress and they didn’t want to take a chance on a child ever firing it again, so they sent me a brand new Rifle for my Grand son, and all so included a scope for free for our trouble.

When the new rifle arrived I took it out back and lined it up and shot 50 rounds of Golden Eagle 22 LR through it, inspecting every bit of brass for anything out of the norm and every thing was great, so having another box of this Remington 22 Game load 22 LR ammo I kept for my own testing with the same lot number as I sent back to Remington, decided to try some in this new Rifle, the first shot looked fine, clean brass, dent in the rim, no problems, the second shot sounded a little funny, I ejected the brass and found a 1/4 inch split up the side of the casing, the third shot, the brass showed signs of excessive heat to where the case had turned from brass color to that of stEEl, the fourth showed black powder burns all around the out side of the casing.

I then cleaned the new Crickett, fired 4 CCI mini mags , 4 Golden Eagles , and 4 Winchesters through it and they all worked fine, so every thing I have learned in my 40 years of reloading, and 15 years as firearms dealer is telling me this ammo is junk, but I cant hear that from Remington because by this time its been 2 weeks and they haven’t tested it yet, but finely after the threat of a law suit, they have the nerve to call me back, said they tested 31 rounds I sent them for Velocity and pressure, and they were all with in specs, they said they had a Cricket Rifle their but never tried any of the ammo in it, and the way it was made they thought the accident was caused by the firing pin and the Rifle company was at fault, when I explained to them the rifle had all ready been tested and was fine, and I had another cartridge that split down the side this time and had nothing to do with the firing pin, they had no excuse, and wanted me to send them all the ammo I had left so they could test the brass this time, I said yea right send you all the proof I have left, I guess not, I told them go call the sporting good store where I bought it and have them send you some, its still on the shelf where other people and CHILDREN can get hurt.

Three different ammo dealers have seen these cartridges after firing and they all say anyone can see its the ammo when compared to other brands and they all say they have always had a problem getting Remington to stand behind their products, 2 of them told me they wont even stock Remington products unless some one ask for them, and they tell people when they order a Remington Rifle that they are not responsible for Remington’s warranty being honored.

P.S. Oh yes I must give Remington credit where it is due, they did offer me a coupon for a new box of ammo, very big of them after $1,000.00 in medical bills and a week of taking pain killers.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

You actually read it??

;-)

[GRRRRR]

Yeah...it has human interest appeal...

HAPPY FRIDAY!~

[dis.kevin]

You’ll shoot your eye out - flashbacks

[Frantzie]

What is a “Crickett rifle?”

Is it for hunting crickets?

Geez I thought shooting groundhogs at 400 yeards with .223 is hard.

[Renegade]

Remington recalled all 597 semi-auto .17 HMR rifles AND Remington .17 ammo in August . Was really nice of them to offer a $200.00 buyback on a $400.00 weapon ( NOT) The hole in the casing sounds like the same problem they had with the .17 and .22 !Saw a picture of a .17 Hornandy round with same hole. All in all REMINGTON SUCKS!!

[stuartcr]

Not the good ole 870.

[Oldpuppymax]

I can’t believe I read this entire post...even the virtually English, English. After finishing, I found that I can no longer spell my name. Anyone know a good 1-800 attorney?

[Tenacious 1]

Holy Text, Crap Man!

Welcome to FR.

They have classes that will help you control a post.

[monkeypants]

Hmmm - I just bought 200 rounds of Remington 9mm lugar JHP - any opinion on that before I cycle it through my 92SB?

[Frantzie]

I wonder if you can inspect the shell casing or something. Not very good when ammo blows up. I wonder if they have been churning out so much.

I think the quality control on .22 is not that great.

[Frantzie]

I wonder if you can inspect the shell casing or something. Not very good when ammo blows up. I wonder if they have been churning out so much.

I think the quality control on .22 is not that great.

[Frantzie]

I wonder if you can inspect the shell casing or something. Not very good when ammo blows up. I wonder if they have been churning out so much.

I think the quality control on .22 is not that great.

[Frantzie]

I want to know if a Crickett rifle has a scope on it when you go hunting crickets.