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Question for "Birthers"...If you were to conclusively prove Obama isn't a "Nat Born Cit", what then?
FR | 7-29-09 | Bob J

Posted on 07/29/2009 9:49:22 AM PDT by Bob J

I'm not taking a position one way or the other, I have been watching the "Birther" controversy with interest.

In answering my question, please go further than the obvious, in other words what would be the outfall and how would you handle the eventual constitutional crisis? Would Biden become prez? If he is no longer viable, would it then fall to Pelosi?

I'm asking the birther supporters to think long range about this.


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1 posted on 07/29/2009 9:49:22 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J

Follow the Constitution, and the law.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 9:50:13 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: Bob J

Biden ‘10


3 posted on 07/29/2009 9:50:45 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Bob J

Hello President Plugs.


4 posted on 07/29/2009 9:52:03 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: cvq3842

Correct! We would be doing this even if it were Sarah Palin who didn’t have a B/C.

Because it’s all about the Constitution.


5 posted on 07/29/2009 9:52:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Bob J

Biden takes over, then he starts WWW III with all his stupid comments.....

He would appoint Hillary as VP BTW


6 posted on 07/29/2009 9:52:27 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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Would it not invalidate the entire Democrat ticket?

President Pelosi!

7 posted on 07/29/2009 9:53:39 AM PDT by flying_bullet (El Conservo tribe member)
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To: Bob J
Would Biden become prez? If he is no longer viable, would it then fall to Pelosi?

No - re-do the last election. Why? Because we knew about the potential (and high probability) 0 was NOT born in the U.S. LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG before last November's election. It's not like 0 not being a U.S. citizen is breaking news or something, though to many it is, unfortunately.

Have a do-over with Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. It would be very close, but hopefully Palin would prevail.

8 posted on 07/29/2009 9:53:54 AM PDT by library user
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The 2008 election outcome would be invalid...

The usual line of succession would not apply...

Either McCain/Palin would win by defaqult or a whole new election would have to be held...

McCain/Palin V Clinton/Whomever


9 posted on 07/29/2009 9:54:28 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bob J
The birthers sincerely want Obama to be found a non-citizen. Doesn't matter what the consequences for the country are.

It would be a terrible day for America if the birthers are right.

10 posted on 07/29/2009 9:54:33 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: agere_contra
Correct! We would be doing this even if it were Sarah Palin who didn’t have a B/C.

Exactly. This has NOTHING to do with politics and EVERYTHING to do with the CONSTITUTION.

11 posted on 07/29/2009 9:54:38 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Squash the fascist insect that preys upon the lives of the people -- FUBO!)
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To: Bob J
My belief is that we no longer live under the US Constitution in any meaningful way. But there are enough smoke and mirrors out there that this may not be readily apparent. Example: Hate Crimes go against the first amendment, gun control goes against second amendment, affirmative action goes against equal protection. I could go on and on.

To your point: If Obama is not qualified to be president, and if an attempt is made to remove him, it will probably result in serious urban riots. It may be our first failure at an orderly change in government. That would be my expectation.

But what would be worse would be a failure to remove Obama. That would really send a clear signal that the Constitution is a dead letter. Then, it would be very hard to hide the fact that we have become mere serfs, ruled by a political elite. At that point, I guess we just suck it up, right?

12 posted on 07/29/2009 9:54:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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This matters not. The constitution will take care of this.


13 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:00 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: Bob J

Follow the constitution.

A conservative shouldn’t even have to ask that question.


14 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Bob J
It does not matter who is in line to replace Obama. What matters is following the Constitution and enforcing it.
15 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:19 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Bob J

The Constitution provides guidance on this issue.

An usurper’s actions are null and void. The Vice President is sworn in as President.


16 posted on 07/29/2009 9:55:33 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: Bob J

I ain’t no birfer, I’m a constitutionalist!

That being said, this issue is begging for a SCOTUS ruling. Only their decision will suffice for me.


17 posted on 07/29/2009 9:56:37 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Bob J

You would be happier as a Democrat.


18 posted on 07/29/2009 9:56:53 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Bob J
What would happen?

The Supreme Court would declare him inelligible for the presidency ... he would turn the White House over to Biden. I imagine some prosecutor somewhere would indict him and his followers - this is a serious crime.

Several of his inner city followers would riot and be supressed by the police and, if necessary, armed citizens.

19 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:17 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: Bob J

Question for people who adopt leftist derogatory terms referring to conservatives:

Bob J, are you a heterophobe? Do you refer to heterosexuals as “Breeders”? Your post would indicate that by it’s phraseology.

This scandal has been referred to as Certificate and several other names long before the far left “Birther” meme appeared. Yet you chose to adopt that rendering. Much like so called conservatives who refer to pro life people as “Anti-Abortionists”

If you think I am being insulting or unfair to you with this post in any way, feel free to try to defend yourself.
There isn’t much to support you, but you can try. You want to join up with Morford, and you will get called on it.


20 posted on 07/29/2009 9:58:20 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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