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To: Houghton M.

You brought up Moore’s analogy not me.

Your way hopes that the change will not be permanent, you obviously have not been listening to those that are running things now or to who has lead them throughout their lives.

Obama is the product of pseudo communist race baiters that want to destroy this country, and set up a socialist utopia amidst the carnage that ensues from the coming meltdown he is engineering even as we speak.

Even if we do as you want he is going to destroy this country and it’s forest of laws, he has to, to achieve his goals.

Those of us that are prepared to defended the constitution even with our lives understand that failing to act or refusing to challenge him for the good of the constitution still allows him to destroy it.

His first step to destroying our country and the constitution, was to place himself above all that it requires of our presidents, he does not meet the eligibility requirements for the office, and as such has taken the position against the very forest of laws you say we must defend by ignoring the devil with in.

Moore would have us give the devil his day in court, Obama has never be challenged in a court of law on this issue because he has mind tricked his way out of any sort of confrontation in the legal system via cleaver maneuvering that has shunted all cases to the side before they (and the American citizen) can get a chance to have the facts determined in a court of law.

Shame on anyone that says we must obey the laws when Obama isn’t even allowing the laws to be applied in his case, you place his right to twist and tweak the law to protect him about the rights of all Americans to know the truth and if the Constitution is being ignored by Obama.


190 posted on 07/23/2009 9:26:39 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: usmcobra

You really, really don’t get it, do you? Giving the Devil his day in court is to say that Justice is what matters.

If the end or goal (defeating the Devil) justifies the use of illegal means, injustice, then Injustice has won.

You are using ends-justifies-means reasoning. If that’s what you want, fine. But that’s not what the Founders wanted.

But that’s exactly what every single tyrant employs: might makes right, ends justify means. Hitler had evil goals and thought that they justified evil means. You have good goals and think that they justify evil means.

What Thomas More (one o, not two) as channeled by Bolt understood was that when you resort to justifying unjust means by pointing to just ends you remove the protection of the Law for yourself. You have not grounds anymore for appealing to Justice, to Law, for your own protection when under attack by a tyrant.

I despise Obama’s policies as much as you do. But I love my country far too much to trash the Constitution, trash the rule of Law in order to get at the man whose policies I detest.

If you don’t understand that, you are no patriot.


192 posted on 07/23/2009 10:00:55 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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