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Posted on 07/07/2009 10:15:22 AM PDT by sig226

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To: Tijeras_Slim

Many a tasty rooster have lived to fly another day for lack of follow through.


161 posted on 07/08/2009 10:35:08 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I'm still trying to find one of those 40mm Glocks for sale on Gunbroker.com. Have you seen any?

I once wrote a letter to the editor of The Record (newspaper) in New Jersey, in which I chastised them for including the term 40mm Glock in a news story. So the next time I saw an article by the reporter in question, it involved a 40mm handgun.

If they repackaged their product as humor instead of news, their sales might stop sinking.

162 posted on 07/08/2009 10:41:52 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: sig226

I don’t understand the attraction of those things.


163 posted on 07/08/2009 10:45:16 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: FreedomPoster

The BoxO’Truth is one of the essential firearms sites. I asked the owner if heavier shot would make any difference would make any difference when used against a human attacker. I was refering to turkey loads with two ounces of #2 shot. He had tried those, too, and replied with the standard, ‘little shot is for little birds.’ :)


164 posted on 07/08/2009 10:50:49 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: sig226
OK, so what would you recommend as a personal firearm useful for putting down snakes of all varieties?

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

165 posted on 07/08/2009 10:54:29 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Tainan

Inernal and external ballistics are good subjects, each worthy of a long thread.

On the subject of inherent accuracy, 6mm bullets seem to have the best potential. I learned this from benchrest shooters who went to tremendous efforts to assemble 6mm PPC cartridges that would shoot five shoot groups .001” tighter than the next guy. I’ve never heard an explanation for it, but I have noticed that 6mm rifles tend to be extremely accurate The bullet diameter is the common factor.

They’re doing remarkable things with .308s, but I think the 6mm will remain the best, perhaps only because extended range sessions are a little easier on the shoulder with the 6mm guns.


166 posted on 07/08/2009 11:01:51 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Someone saw one in a movie once.

Birdshot out of a three inch barrel. Yeah, right. Just remember, the druggist who shot the robber with a Judge upgraded to a .380 for rest of the shots.


167 posted on 07/08/2009 11:05:29 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: LonePalm

If you want the Taurus for shooting the slithering variety, it’s okay. I’ve tested so-called snake shot rounds and found them useful only if the snake is within striking distance. I don’t know of a firearm that would work well on both two legged and no legged snakes.


168 posted on 07/08/2009 11:06:15 AM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: LonePalm

Using a walking stick when you’re hiking and a shovel when you’re in your garden. Save the gun for the two legged pests.


169 posted on 07/08/2009 11:07:41 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: sig226
Oh man that's funny. Makes me long for the time of hard-bitten detective pulp stories:

"I jammed the roscoe in his button and said, 'Close your yap, bo, or I squirt metal.'"

170 posted on 07/08/2009 11:09:42 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I hope somebody comes up with a historical explanation why the .38-40 (.38 WCF) is actually a 40 cal before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

I want to know why the .44 Magnum is actually a .43.

171 posted on 07/08/2009 11:11:35 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

The .44 magnum is the final descendant of the moribund .44 American. The .44 American was .44” being a heel based bullet like the .22 Long Rifle. When S&W got a substantial contract to produce breaktop revolvers for the Russians in the late 1800’s, the Russians stipulated that the bullet should be more enclosed by the case, which reduced bullet size to .429” and became the .44 Russian cartridge. This was later lengthened and called the .44 Special around the turn of the century. The .44 Mag, introduced in 1955, is the Special once again lengthened and hot-rodded.


172 posted on 07/08/2009 11:16:09 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Titan Magroyne

Smoke’em if ya got ‘em.


173 posted on 07/08/2009 1:02:32 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: Still Thinking; Tijeras_Slim
Zackly. Sweep the gun in a smooth arc till it’s on the same track as and slightly ahead of the target. Shoot while continuing to swing on the same arc.

That is one way; there are at least four other ways.

Some are better than others .

For wing or clays, I prefer Move, Mount, Shoot


174 posted on 07/08/2009 2:17:36 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_invented_the_revolver


175 posted on 07/08/2009 2:24:49 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: sig226
Consider all guns always loaded Do not point a gun at anything you are not willing to see destroyed Keep your finger off the trigger unless you intend to fire

Those rules are obsolete and unsafe.

If people were to follow these NRA safety rules they would eliminate "accidents":

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use

NRA T/C CRSO
176 posted on 07/08/2009 3:17:58 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

This is the fourth time you mentioned the NRA rules are better than Cooper’s without any study produced to verify that.

Produce the link.


177 posted on 07/08/2009 3:34:39 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Disambiguator

Slim, where does the .44-40 fit into there. Its my understanding that it was the fore-runner of the .44 special...which is one of my personal favorite pistola rounds.


178 posted on 07/08/2009 4:44:19 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Drumbo

Cha, but I quit! :-D


179 posted on 07/08/2009 5:27:11 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: Shooter 2.5
This is the fourth time you mentioned the NRA rules are better than Cooper’s without any study produced to verify that.

Produce the link

This is the fourth time that I have directed you to the NRA for the NRA study.

For someone who claims that they schmooze with the high muckity mucks in the NRA,
you seem to be so incredibly ignorant about the NRA gun safety rules and their origins.

You seem be incredibly ignorant of the classical role and mission of the NRA.

Clearly you have never availed yourself of the opportunity of being trained
by the NRA to safely handle firearms.

You seem to be the type of person who is untrainable.

I hope your ignorance is not responsible for dangerous incidents on the part of others.

You seem to be unable to follow simple instructions in order to obtain the study.

Again I will repeat please call 1-800-672-3888 and ask for the Training Dept.

Since this study was done twenty-fove years ago, there is no online link.

NRA T/C CRSO


180 posted on 07/08/2009 8:25:22 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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