This sort of thing happens every day.
Posted on 04/20/2009 11:55:12 AM PDT by Chet 99
By Matt Guillermo, KESQ.com Digital Content Director mguillermo@kesq.com
ANZA - A man who told authorities his horse was attacked by dogs was arrested after deputies found that the horse, instead, was beaten with a sledgehammer.
According to the Riverside County Sheriff's Department, the horse's owner, Jack Ziniuk, called deputies Sunday afternoon to "put down" his horse, saying that it had been badly injured by attacking dogs and that it was suffering from seizures.
Deputies and, later, Animal Control officers investigating the horse found that it had been struck several times in the head with a sledgehammer and, then, decapitated with a chainsaw.
Deputies later located the chainsaw and sledgehammer allegedly used. Investigators also found the horse's head which had been used to feed the man's dogs.
Ziniuk, 64, was arrested for animal cruelty and booked into the Robert Presley Detention Center in Riverside. AddThis Social Bookmark Button
“I support humane treatment of animals. I didn’t realize this was a controversial point of view. But is seems to be.”
The controversy was guaranteed by both the passage of a well meaning law putatively about horse slaughter houses, AND the faulty premises and lack of logic which you seem to be an example of (nothing personal, as I shall show).
Allow me to explain my last part of the above sentence. The slaughter of animals by a massive blow to the skull IS PAINLESS!
How anyone can debate that is beyond me.
As for the unintended consequence of the horse meat ban, that burden of guilt for all the suffering, both human and horse suffering, rests squarely on the shoulders of those who worked for, voted for, or now derive money from that misguided bill.
Votes have consequences, and Obamunism isn’t the only bad one.
Unless you think government control of education, farming, vehicle design parameters, ad nauseam is a good thing, you will love government telling you and your vet how to take care of your animals.
I have not seen that movie. Not likely to, either...
LOL!
Well, I understand that people eat meat and, while I don’t think it’s wrong to do so, I’m finding it increasingly difficult to do it myself, as the thought of consuming another living thing is somewhat disturbing.
So I accept the idea that animals will be killed in order to feed the world, if you will. When this happens it should be with the greatest expediency and in the most humane way possible, IMO.
What I can’t suport is cruelty and the infliction of suffering on a living thing that doesn’t deserve it. The horse killer in this article apparently has many apologists here on this forum. I just don’t see any justification for what he did.
“I’m sure the old codger could afford a backhoe.”
Did you forget the /sarcasm or are we reading minds and billfolds today?
;-)
I don’t know for sure, one way or the other, but it could be that the animal was injured and had to be humanely put down.
Why don’t you let us worry about what “God” wants us to worry about.
Please show where God says animals should not be slaughtered or even abused.
This sort of thing happens every day.
I don’t care what God says about it. How’s that?
I just don’t know enough facts about this to make a final judgment but…
What kind of dogs was this guy keeping and under what conditions would supposedly domesticated dogs brutally attack a horse?
If his dogs are so vicious as to attack a horse, does feeding those dogs the horse meat only encourage more viciousness?
If the horse was inured did he even bother to call a vet?
If the horse was so severely injured that putting it out of it’s misery on the spot was the best most humane option, beating it repeatedly over the head with a sledge hammer doesn’t sound all that humane to me, did he not have a gun?
If it was a case that the guy couldn’t care for the horse anymore, did he attempt to contact a humane society or horse rescue group?
Why did he lie about what had happened?
Inquiring minds want to know.
When I was a kid (about 3rd grade) my family lived in a rural area of SE PA and my dad did a lot of carpentry work for a large dairy - cattle farm. One Saturday I went along with my dad when he went to meet the head of the operation to go over some more work, in this case in the slaughter house.
I got quite an education that day. I learned how steers are slaughtered and while not “pretty”, what I observed was that they were dispatched quite quickly and as humanely as possible – stunned by an electric prod and then shot in the head with a modified rifle.
The guy was very impressed by my composure and the questions I asked and told my dad that if I was interested in joining the 4-H that he would let me “adopt” a dairy calf and raise it and show it in the farm show, which I did for the next year before we moved back to the city. :(,
I learned a lot about dairy farms and cattle breeding and slaughter and I learned that these animals are not abused or mistreated or neglected even if they eventually end up in the food chain. I learned that farmers respect their animals and care for them and don’t go out of their way to make them suffer.
With all that being said, I have no sympathy for a person who abuses, neglects, injures or kills an animal out of cruelty or base indifference. I think a person who does that to a defenseless animal is just one step from doing that to me. And a lot of farmers and hunters I know feel the same.
You'll find “humane” is entirely relative and that whatever the current standard is, it kills the beast in the end.
How can that be “humane” to a literal point of view?
I would not rely on Hollywood to be particularly accurate about such things. In any case, the use of captive bolt guns is widespread and perfectly legal. So, presumably, they meet the legal definition of “humane” implements of slaughter.
I don’t know for sure, one way or the other, but it could be that the animal was injured and had to be humanely put down.
No Words!!!!
Gotta go. Will check in later...
God is love. Love one another...Treat all living things with respect, dignity and kindness.
You know, that is the same argument given by gays in favor of why homosexuality and any other perversion is “okay.” Why should anyone have a problem with any perversion or crime when all God is is Love??
Because God is also Truth and our definition of “love” is not His. He believes in absolutes and calling evil or even just what we value, “love” does not make it so. Nor does it make it right.
I’d love to see your argument against lamb sacrifices for God that weren’t even used for eating. Pure abuse there, right?
Mice and rats are not FELLOW mammals in my world. I dont have any problem what so ever in killing any animal—if it needs to be killed. I do not however go take a hammer to it and try to beat it to death.
You are out of line,,,way out. Nobody made you God to judge others that you know nothing about, either.
I do not have any problem with killing. I do have a problem with abusing animals that have no defense. Hammering them to death is abuse in my book.
Well, according to science, you are clueless. So it isn't just me. :-)
Something to read sometime:
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