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Man fatally shot by BART police officer.Fruitvale alert
sfgate ^
| Thursday, January 1, 2009
| Jill Tucker, Kelly Zito,Heather Knight
Posted on 01/01/2009 6:08:50 PM PST by GSP.FAN
A young man allegedly involved in a possible scuffle aboard a BART train was shot to death by a BART police officer on the platform of the Fruitvale Station early today.
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TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: bart; bayarea; donutwatch; fruitvale; guns; oakland
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allegedly, possible. Excuse my ignorance do Bart police carry a gun.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:08:50 PM PST
by
GSP.FAN
To: martin_fierro
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:10:01 PM PST
by
nickcarraway
(Are the Good Times Really Over?)
To: GSP.FAN
Yes, BART cops are armed.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:11:03 PM PST
by
csvset
To: GSP.FAN
Yes, they are regular armed officers - with K-9 units and all the accoutrements. How often they actually ride trains is an open question. ;)
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:12:04 PM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
To: csvset
I always thought of Bart officers as cheap security with a uniform.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:14:23 PM PST
by
GSP.FAN
To: GSP.FAN
While witness accounts reported by news organizations indicate Grant was on the ground and handcuffed when he was shot, Allison would not confirm the victim had been detained.Yikes. It's been 30 yrs since I've lived in the Bay Area. Even back then they had cameras that monitored the station platforms. It'll be interesting if this was caught on tape.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:15:57 PM PST
by
csvset
To: csvset
Drive by media.
Sfgate will never report on the story again.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:20:35 PM PST
by
GSP.FAN
To: GSP.FAN
I never could figure out why they called the Frisco Area Rapid Transit BART.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:23:18 PM PST
by
FreePaul
To: GSP.FAN
Fruitvale? Really? I still just call it San Francisco.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:23:21 PM PST
by
xjcsa
(And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
To: FreePaul
I never could figure out why they called the Frisco Area Rapid Transit BART.Bay Area Rapid Transit.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:24:05 PM PST
by
xjcsa
(And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
To: GSP.FAN
There's a station on the Bay Area Rapid Transit system called "Fruitdale"?
That's just a joke waiting to happen....
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:39:33 PM PST
by
justlurking
(The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.)
To: GSP.FAN
Deceased was 22 years old. This is a horrid event.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:46:21 PM PST
by
Alia
To: GSP.FAN
Guns and dogs. The dogs appear to be the better trained. My guess is that this is another one of those “accidental discharges” - and yes, they carry a certain Austrian designed handgun.
In the wake of 911 some of them were briefly issued M4s or CAR15s. Let’s just say that it soon became apparent that muzzle control was not a big part of their training. Nothing like some guy waving his carbine round on a crowded train.
What annoys me is that BART cops also have cars and you often see them driving around, from one station to another I suppose. Not sure why they can’t just take the train like the rest of us.
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posted on
01/01/2009 6:56:41 PM PST
by
InABunkerUnderSF
(Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
To: justlurking
Not what you'd think. It's in Oakland and not a very appealing 'hood. If you're going to a Raiders or A's game it's the last station before the Colosseum.
The BART System.
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posted on
01/01/2009 7:03:30 PM PST
by
InABunkerUnderSF
(Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
To: Alia
“This is a horrid event.”
Not necessarily. Some people just need killing.
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posted on
01/01/2009 7:35:45 PM PST
by
toomuchcoffee
( Yeah, I'll help you buy some real estate)
To: GSP.FAN
That would be Portland Tri Max.
If a scuffle or mugging happens the unarmed security officers is NOT I repear NOT allowed to intervene.
All he can do is call 911.
Now how stupid is that to pay a suckurity officer whose sole job is to stand by and call 911.
The riders can do that for no cost to the city.
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posted on
01/01/2009 8:19:06 PM PST
by
Global2010
(God Will see us through. Persevere)
To: FreePaul
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posted on
01/01/2009 8:20:28 PM PST
by
Global2010
(God Will see us through. Persevere)
To: csvset
Back then it was safe to ride BART.
Use to go all over as a teen exploring.
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posted on
01/01/2009 8:22:01 PM PST
by
Global2010
(God Will see us through. Persevere)
To: justlurking
There's a station on the Bay Area Rapid Transit system called "Fruitdale"?Bay Area Rapid Transit = Bart
Phoenix Area Rapid Transit = ?
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posted on
01/01/2009 9:25:59 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. -C.S. Lewis)
To: csvset
the CBS 5 video at the link reports at 1:07 that Grant was either sitting or lying down on the pavement. BART claims that not all cameras are taped.
imo if five police officers couldn’t handle this, then they needed to threaten use of dogs or teargas as a secondary measure before any guns were pulled. jmo moo
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posted on
01/01/2009 11:35:43 PM PST
by
blueplum
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