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To: the long march

And that means it is codified into our law, so therefore is it illegal?


7 posted on 12/12/2008 10:41:53 AM PST by stockpirate (Rush, Sean, Laura, Mark, Ann, Malkin, Beck- MIA re: COLB, Have lost ALL creds!)
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To: stockpirate

The Declaration of Independence is MANY things.

“codified into our law” is NOT one of them.


29 posted on 12/12/2008 11:17:25 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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What do you do when the law is scuttled? We already have the law, it's called the Constitution and Bill of Rights. What if laws are made to deny the Second Amendment? The language is clear, you don't need a lawyer to understand it, yet we have thousands of laws denying it. When is "too far"? No thinking person believes abortion is codified in the 4th Amendment, yet 40,000,000 have died. There is a line out there to be crossed, I don't know where it is, but it will soon be crossed, and we have to decide if we go along or not. The laws can be changed, but it's not easy. We have been passive far to long and we end up with the lowest common denominator.

We now have freedom to speak as long as it's approved, we have freedom of religion as long as it's non Christian, we have freedom of Assembly as long as it's not a "hate" group, we have the right to guns as long as they approve of you and your gun, and so on and so forth. I won't even get into eminent domain and other freedoms lost for now, but you get the picture. There is a line out there somewhere, but if Waco and Ruby Ridge didn't cross it, I'm not sure where it is. I was hoping it would be the Second Amendment, but I fear we will have the same stones the British, Aussies, and others have shown. When they come to get them, you hand them over because it seems "reasonable" to you. Just as hate speech seems reasonable, forbidding God in the culture seems reasonable, searching your emails and phone conversations seems reasonable, homosexual marriage seems reasonable, supporting businesses that can't make money seems reasonable, taking your land for a private cause to raise the tax base seems reasonable, owning over 1/3 of the land mass of America seems reasonable, forbidding oil drilling and giving money to our enemies seems reasonable, watching a president lie on TV and not calling it purgery seems reasonable, electing a president that was friends with a terrorist and wants to have a pow wow with Muslims as his first official foreign policy act seems reasonable, electing someone that won't show a Birth Certificate and no one is allowed to see his college papers or even know for sure what his real name is seems reasonable, and finally, sitting idly by while 40 million babies are butchered and doing nothing seems reasonable enough. When we get universal health care, these same people will decide to kill your baby for it's "carbon footprint", because you already have too many children, or just because the mom says she doesn't want it 6 months after birth. They will decide that you cost too much to keep alive and stroll through nursing homes "pulling the plug" one people they deem unworthy to live. Is that a line we won't cross? I don't know. We allowed it with Terri Shiavo and many here cheered it. We allowed a woman with no living will to be executed by a judge that usually decides who get the silverware in probate court. She had not committed any crime, wasn't charged with any capital crime, and yet was murdered by the state because her ex husband wanted her gone. You can make any moral judgment you want, but it was illegal to kill her. She was declared a non-person that day and lost her rights. With that logic, the majority could declare "blacks" are non-persons and put them back in chains. You probably were led to believe that issue was settled, but apparently a white woman can still lose her citizenship as long as the majority agrees. When the state decides that you or a family member no longer deserves to live, who will come to your defense? I don't know if there are any left.

We have a group called the Minutemen trying to patrol our borders because the government won't do what it was hired to do, and look at their reputation.

32 posted on 12/12/2008 11:27:06 AM PST by chuckles
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To: stockpirate

How do you get that response from my post? My post actually suggests that there are times when revolution is a necessity.


47 posted on 12/12/2008 1:27:27 PM PST by the long march
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