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To: TalonDJ; 300winmag; Ramius

Okay... unscrew the seater plug a turn or two, place a factory load in the station, raise the ram, and screw the plug back down till you feel resistance. This should set your seating depth. Unscrew the crimp die a turn or two. Index the load to station four, raise the ram. Turn down the crimp die until you feel resistance. This should set your crimp. You should at least be in the ball park...

winmags right, there should be no visible crimp, the case side should appear straight, but have a dia of .473, as opposed to .475 at the bottom, and .480 on the rim. What your “crimp” die does is “de-bell” the cartridge...

winmag is also right about the feed ramp... it should shine...

max load for 231 in 115gr 9mm is 5.3gr for 1150 fps... I’d start 4.3gr at 1050 fps. 3.8 gives 1000 fps, but that light a load may cause cycling problems too...

I’ve used 231 for 9mm, but prefer Unique... which is what I feed my .38/.357...


2,849 posted on 06/30/2008 4:32:14 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
I just committed "match ammo". 200 rounds each for Federal .308 Match in 168 and 175 gr bullets. Reading the reviews, several people said it took them years to develop handloads to equal what the Federal does out of the box.
2,850 posted on 06/30/2008 5:38:00 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: g'nad

That’s an excellent recommendation. Use a factory load of the same bullet as a gauge to set the dies. Dang, that woulda’ saved me hours and much aggravation. :-)


2,853 posted on 06/30/2008 6:45:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: g'nad

It was about 4.2 of 231 that would not cycle the 9mm. I got some blue dot and loaded some about 7.8 should be good. We will see. I am trying various this with the .45 now.


2,860 posted on 06/30/2008 7:07:39 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: g'nad; Ramius; 300winmag; TalonDJ

Well said, that’s a great summary of case measurement and die setting. Micrometers are our friends. Even the digital ones aren’t that spendy these days.

Yup, Unique for it all, 9mm, .38 and .45 both the long and short versions. I have a can of Win Ball 293 I think, don’t use it much, it’s for the full bore .357 loads with a jacketed bullet. I don’t actually shoot many jacketed ones once I get a load set. Lead makes punching holes in paper or knocking down steel plates that much cheaper.


2,863 posted on 06/30/2008 7:23:30 PM PDT by osagebowman
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