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The Hobbit Hole XXXVI - O! Water cold we may pour at need...

Posted on 05/03/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: HairOfTheDog
Funny that Cisco cared about it.

Yeah, that was odd. He never seemed to notice much when the van used to occasionally go off almost spontaneously. Maybe because the car is more on his level?

2,841 posted on 06/30/2008 1:57:17 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: JenB
‘Zat what Southern ladies’ hospitality advises?

If so, it's much better than the Northern equivalent.

Seemed like most potlucks back home, there would be an enormous selection of weird Jello salads. Corn and carrots and peas should not be anywhere *near* Jello in my world. I'm just sayin'.

I don't much like Jello any old way, but...eeeeeww.

2,842 posted on 06/30/2008 2:13:28 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton

Peas in jello? eeeeewww is right.


2,843 posted on 06/30/2008 2:32:36 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
So where is everybody??

Working.... After a brief respite in the form of a week's vacation, I'm back to my regular 28-8 work schedule (which is a lot like a 24-7 only crazier).

2,844 posted on 06/30/2008 3:06:05 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro!)
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To: Lil'freeper

I think 28-8 involves alternate dimensions and stuff.

I’m working, really I am....


2,845 posted on 06/30/2008 3:12:51 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: TalonDJ
Could not really tell about crimp.

.45ACP should never be crimped, because the round headspaces on the case mouth. A tiny amount of crimp may seem harmless, but it could also bulge out the case behind the crimp enough to exceed appropriate dimensions.

Also check for any roughness in the chamber. There may be just enough to interfere with certain brands or reloads. And hand-polishing the feed ramp with some crocus cloth wrapped around a dowel never hurts. It should shine like a mirror.

2,846 posted on 06/30/2008 3:19:54 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: RosieCotton

Alternate dimensions and quantum theory....sounds like a story I’m writing.


2,847 posted on 06/30/2008 3:20:58 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: TalonDJ

Of all the stuff I ever loaded it was the .45s that gave me the most trouble. I think it must be why I liked shooting .357 so much then. .357 is a breeze since it’s a roll-crimp and there’s no question when it’s right.

But I had the toughest time getting my .45s to seat right. That taper-crimp is a bugger. Too loose and the bullet doesn’t stay put. Too tight and it won’t headspace on the case rim. Grrr.

It sounds like maybe your cases are bulging slightly? Dang, it’s been so long that I’m not getting recall, but isn’t there a full-length resize before the belling stage? Maybe there’s something not right about that making it too wide in the base, and then too tight in the chamber.

dunno.


2,848 posted on 06/30/2008 4:04:21 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: TalonDJ; 300winmag; Ramius

Okay... unscrew the seater plug a turn or two, place a factory load in the station, raise the ram, and screw the plug back down till you feel resistance. This should set your seating depth. Unscrew the crimp die a turn or two. Index the load to station four, raise the ram. Turn down the crimp die until you feel resistance. This should set your crimp. You should at least be in the ball park...

winmags right, there should be no visible crimp, the case side should appear straight, but have a dia of .473, as opposed to .475 at the bottom, and .480 on the rim. What your “crimp” die does is “de-bell” the cartridge...

winmag is also right about the feed ramp... it should shine...

max load for 231 in 115gr 9mm is 5.3gr for 1150 fps... I’d start 4.3gr at 1050 fps. 3.8 gives 1000 fps, but that light a load may cause cycling problems too...

I’ve used 231 for 9mm, but prefer Unique... which is what I feed my .38/.357...


2,849 posted on 06/30/2008 4:32:14 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad
I just committed "match ammo". 200 rounds each for Federal .308 Match in 168 and 175 gr bullets. Reading the reviews, several people said it took them years to develop handloads to equal what the Federal does out of the box.
2,850 posted on 06/30/2008 5:38:00 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: 300winmag

most excellent... truth be told, the accuracy excuse for handloading has pretty much evaporated... factory loads have improved light years...


2,851 posted on 06/30/2008 6:28:00 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

It’s gonna be cheaper tho..

We’re planning to take the pistols with us and take my siblings shooting again. The four it’ll do most good will be there... sister-we-armed probably hasn’t got any good instruction since we left her, sister-who-thinks-she-is-invincible could use another lesson and the brothers are at a very impressionable age... my poor mom hates us teaching them guns and arming them but that’s her loss.


2,852 posted on 06/30/2008 6:41:53 PM PDT by JenB
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To: g'nad

That’s an excellent recommendation. Use a factory load of the same bullet as a gauge to set the dies. Dang, that woulda’ saved me hours and much aggravation. :-)


2,853 posted on 06/30/2008 6:45:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: JenB
It’s gonna be cheaper tho..

that's the second reason fer handloadin'... and it still holds true... big time...

sounds like a good time... you and Talon are capable instructors... at least no one will come back with a couple extra holes...

2,854 posted on 06/30/2008 6:47:51 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: Ramius; TalonDJ

I figgered that out years ago... after alotta cussin’...

only thing is, if’n you change projo’s, all bets are off...


2,855 posted on 06/30/2008 6:50:16 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: RosieCotton; JenB

Actually, what Not Valerie would tell you is that Nana taught her that when it’s potluck you take a whole meal. An entree, two sides, a drink and a dessert. That’s just the way it was ~done~.

I’m pretty sure that’s what my Mom did also.


2,856 posted on 06/30/2008 6:50:21 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands

heh... we always took one thing to a potluck... but then we wuz cheap bastiges...


2,857 posted on 06/30/2008 6:54:38 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

I suspect the way our Mamas did potlucks has a lot to do with why I have to buy my underoos at Norfolk Tent and Awning...


2,858 posted on 06/30/2008 6:59:23 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands

I was gonna make a comment about that, but thanks fer doin’ it fer me...


2,859 posted on 06/30/2008 7:07:18 PM PDT by g'nad
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To: g'nad

It was about 4.2 of 231 that would not cycle the 9mm. I got some blue dot and loaded some about 7.8 should be good. We will see. I am trying various this with the .45 now.


2,860 posted on 06/30/2008 7:07:39 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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