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Vista SP1 prerequisite kills some PCs
TechSpot.com ^ | February 20, 2008 | Jose Vilches

Posted on 02/23/2008 7:33:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Last week Microsoft rolled out three prerequisite updates to prepare users computers for the first service pack for Windows Vista. However, one of these updates apparently caused serious issues among some users, prompting Microsoft to quickly suspend automatic installations of KB937287 after customers complained that their PCs wouldn't boot up properly once the update had been applied.

For affected users who already received the update, the only solution is to reboot their computers, boot from their original Vista disc and restore their computer to a state several days prior. However, some users have reported hardware and hard disk problems after restoration.

Nick White downplayed the problem on the Windows Vista Team Blog, stating that only a small amount of customers were affected and only in unique circumstances. Microsoft is trying to look into what is causing this unrecoverable crash, and has yet to respond whether or not the blunder will impact its plans to start offering SP1 to users next month.

(Excerpt) Read more at techspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: amd; intel; lowqualitycrap; microshaft; microsoft; sp1; vista; vistasp1
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1 posted on 02/23/2008 7:33:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: ShadowAce

Microsoft Junks and Replaces Vista Kernel in SP1
APCmag | February 5th | James Bannan
Posted on 02/09/2008 6:22:20 AM EST by Halfmanhalfamazing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1967574/posts

Suit says Microsoft knew it misled - (Mislabeling computers as “Vista Capable”)
Seattle Post Intellegencer | 02/13/2008 | By JOSEPH TARTAKOFF
Posted on 02/13/2008 9:12:57 PM EST by Swordmaker
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1970017/posts


2 posted on 02/23/2008 7:34:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
Ouch.

better go open a window and air out the room after that one..

Oh no, not me.. :-}

3 posted on 02/23/2008 7:41:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

No Vista, staying with XP. If I go anywhere past it, it’s on a different OS....


4 posted on 02/23/2008 7:46:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: SunkenCiv

What a bunch of incompetent bozos.


5 posted on 02/23/2008 7:52:30 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
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6 posted on 02/23/2008 8:05:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/___________________Profile updated Tuesday, February 19, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
unrecoverable crash

Nice feature! Did MS QA this thing?

7 posted on 02/23/2008 8:14:43 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Nice feature! Did MS QA this thing?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA GAG CHORTLE COUGH CHOKE *SPIT*.

I know folks who used to be involved with "Patch Tuesday" on Microsoft stuff.

Not time to do much more than rush stuff out the door...

And remember Bill Valentine's infamous "Think INDIA! Two for the price of one!"

The sacred cows are coming home to roost.

Cheers!

8 posted on 02/23/2008 8:50:54 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m supposed to exchange my HP laptop for a newer version but the HP “geniuses” said Vista was the ONLY OS and no more XP. Is there a way to revert the Vista back to XP IF I get the laptop?


9 posted on 02/23/2008 8:54:11 PM PST by max americana
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To: SunkenCiv; ShadowAce; Swordmaker
Let's not forget this one, too:

Vista SP1 kills and maims security apps, utilities

http://www.theregister.co.uk

"Microsoft has admitted that Windows Vista service pack one (SP1) renders useless a number of well-known third party security products.

"Redmond said in a knowledge base article yesterday that due to "reliability" issues with Vista SP1, it has been forced to prevent some security products from running after the service pack is installed..."

Uh, huh. Funny, it doesn't affect WindowsLive OneCare...

[Tech pings?]

10 posted on 02/23/2008 9:11:40 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: max americana

You can still buy XP Pro at Best Buy. $299.99

I got a copy off the shelf a couple of weeks ago.


11 posted on 02/23/2008 9:12:49 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie
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To: max americana
> I’m supposed to exchange my HP laptop for a newer version but the HP “geniuses” said Vista was the ONLY OS and no more XP. Is there a way to revert the Vista back to XP IF I get the laptop?

Some vendors are allowing a "down-grade" option to remove Vista and replace it with XP.

However, you have to be careful about device drivers -- make sure your notebook vendor (e.g. HP) asserts that XP will run on the laptop. Microsoft convinced some hardware vendors to put Vista-only devices in their computers (laptops especially), and reverting to XP will not work. No technical reason to have done it -- pure marketing and arm-twisting.

Bastards. Technological improvement is one thing, but undercutting the will of the customer is just BULLS!T.

Unfortunately, if your HP person is correct, then your new laptop might be one that really only runs with Vista.

12 posted on 02/23/2008 9:16:45 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie; max americana
See post#12. Just because you can buy a copy of XP doesn't mean it will necessarily run on a new piece of hardware, if the vendor has designed it only for Vista.

I learned this the hard way.

13 posted on 02/23/2008 9:18:12 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored; max americana
> Unfortunately, if your HP person is correct, then your new laptop might be one that really only runs with Vista.

I should add, "Only comes with Vista" does NOT equal "XP won't run on it".

Just because HP doesn't offer it with Vista preinstalled, doesn't mean you can't buy a separate copy of XP and install it successfully.

But you may have to really push and pry to get the accurate answer out of HP to the question, "Are there XP drivers available for all the devices in this laptop???"

That's really what you need to find out.

14 posted on 02/23/2008 9:23:22 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
Damn, didn't proofread my own post.

Just because HP doesn't offer it with Vista XP preinstalled, doesn't mean you can't buy a separate copy of XP and install it successfully.

15 posted on 02/23/2008 9:24:36 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Get XP.

Better yet, 2K Pro, if you can find it.


16 posted on 02/23/2008 9:26:03 PM PST by djf (I think McCain deserves a chance. After all, he is on R side!)
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To: dayglored

Actually, I bought it with the thought of going to a Mac, running XP on it using Parallels or Boot Camp.

If Microsoft is going to force us off of PCs in order to avoid Vista, so be it.


17 posted on 02/23/2008 9:28:24 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie
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To: SunkenCiv

I loaded vista enterprise on my machine a few weeks ago and Still can’t find a problem.


18 posted on 02/23/2008 9:28:32 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( John McCain a true BLUE conservative)
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To: dayglored; LibFreeOrDie

dayglored:

So basically I have to CONFIRM with HP if they have XP drivers installed in the laptop, correct? The first time I spoke with them, they said NO, but I;ll try another “quality assurance” person to find out...


19 posted on 02/23/2008 9:33:17 PM PST by max americana
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To: LibFreeOrDie
> Actually, I bought it with the thought of going to a Mac, running XP on it using Parallels or Boot Camp. If Microsoft is going to force us off of PCs in order to avoid Vista, so be it.

I'm running VMware Fusion on my Macs to do XP, Win2K, Linux, etc. BootCamp works, but you still have to deal with Windows corruption/crash/recovery scenarios eventually. And you can't run them concurrently and copy/paste between OSes as with Fusion.

I suggest looking at VMware Fusion, or Parallels if you prefer (I don't have experience with that one).

I'll never install Windows (any flavor) directly on hardware again. Ever.

20 posted on 02/23/2008 9:34:05 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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