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The Hobbit Hole XXXIV - But better than rain or rippling streams...

Posted on 08/07/2007 7:52:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Sing hey! for the bath at close of day
That washes the weary mud away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Water Hot is anoble thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain.
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than rain or rippling streams
is Water Hot that smokes and steams.

O! Water cold we may pour at need
down a thirsty throat and be glad indeed;
but better is Beer, if drink we lack,
and Water Hot poured down the back.

O! Water is fair that leaps on high
in a fountain white beneath the sky;
but never did fountain sound so sweet
as splashing Hot Water with my feet!

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To: JenB
In this case, most of the folks involved have some connection to medicine, so it makes the whole thing both easier to do, and more difficult to prove. I'll probably just have to assume my jury is really, really dumb and biased, 'cause there likely won't be a whole lot of evidence against the guy who's being framed, except for a) the fingerprints, and b) the fact that it will be medication belonging to a patient of his.

It still seems awfully circumstantial, but I guess if he had a really lousy defense and a really good prosecution...

5,241 posted on 10/22/2007 6:20:06 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Lil'freeper

5,242 posted on 10/22/2007 6:28:08 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: JenB
I don't have an ending to my story, beyond a vague "and they lived happily ever after" sort of notion.

Which is probably why I very, very rarely actually *finish* a story. :-\

5,243 posted on 10/22/2007 6:33:00 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton

Trying to remember what I have and what I need... the middle section is vague. Not sure how I get from mid-point disaster to end-point, nor how to set up the mid-point disaster. I have noticed I am very fond of making absolutely everything fall apart halfway through the story. The “And then the world exploded” moment.

If a doctor was going to kill someone, wouldn’t it be easier to prescribe too big a dose or something? Hmm... so what is the framed person’s motivation for killing the victim (I assume that’s part of the circumstantial evidence) and does the real killer care about the victim or was he just trying to get the framee out of the way.


5,244 posted on 10/22/2007 6:38:08 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Framer isn’t a doctor — he’s a pharmacist who’s been selling drugs on the side, just in small doses. Also carrying on with a doctor’s wife. She knows about what he’s doing, but he hadn’t seen as a danger until now.

To sum up...when she tries to end things, he decides to off her, and frame her husband. He does this partly to keep her from snitching (and to keep her husband from snitching, in case pharmacist dude gets to her too late and she’s already told her husband), and because he hates the husband on principle. There’s a back story there. Bottom line is that it’s nothing personal, he hates a lot of people.

The husband’s motives from the jury’s standpoint are first of all that they were known to be having some marital problems, and the affair sent him over the edge. In reality, he didn’t find out about that until too late, and isn’t a killer, though it would have broken his heart. And does, after the fact.

And she was pregnant. And not with his child, though no one will actually know who the father is. Except the murderer, of course.

All a good bit darker than most stuff I’ve written, and it’s likely to come across like a little kid trying to write big scary stories, but hey, I gotta try something different once in awhile.


5,245 posted on 10/22/2007 7:22:46 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton; JenB; Lil'freeper; Overtaxed; All

hppf ,ptmomh

I’m awake, really. But I had a new dental crown done this morning and I’m over-novacained.


5,246 posted on 10/22/2007 7:32:02 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (i'm so adjective i verb nouns...)
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To: 300winmag
Good school. But also a good call, no way I would want to live near GT without some ‘insurance’ that is a pretty urban area. Mom did some work toward a PHD there a few years ago before dad’s work moved them back to TX.
Hmm that reminds me we need to check out ram levels. We swapped a lot around when we were putting a new machine together a while back and some of them might have gotten shorted.
5,247 posted on 10/22/2007 7:37:34 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: RosieCotton

Huh, it sounds quite interesting! And I’m glad you’ve got a plot, by the way. And some pretty detailed characters it seems.

I have realized that I don’t have very clear characterizations of anyone but my main character... yet again... sigh. And sort of the bad guy but he is a bit one dimensional. And I have to draw out the very complicated relationship diagrams to make sure nobody who is supposed to pair up is actually half-cousins or something.


5,248 posted on 10/22/2007 7:40:25 AM PDT by JenB
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To: RosieCotton
I don't have an ending to my story, beyond a vague "and they lived happily ever after" sort of notion.

Two words: ninja llamas (from the future)
5,249 posted on 10/22/2007 7:47:38 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: JenB

Relationship diagrams, huh? Where is your story set again?

I’m realizing that — except for an extremely lousy fake journal I did for NaNo a few years back — this is the first semi-realistic fiction I’ve attempted in about a decade. :-\

I have several other main characters I can’t figure out. I get about halfway through the story and get stuck. I’ll do some brainstorming tonight. I’ve been using the typewriter for that...just dumping thoughts onto paper to sort back through later.


5,250 posted on 10/22/2007 7:52:29 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: TalonDJ

Err...no. There will be no llamas, ninja or otherwise, in this particular story.


5,251 posted on 10/22/2007 7:53:09 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: RosieCotton

Half the setting is small town America. The other half is Faeryland. That’s part of what requires relationship diagrams, actually, since some characters in the backstory went to Faeryland and were there for periods of time that did not necessarily correlate with the time elapsed on the America side. And when the bad guy (who is the father of the heroine’s true love) had an affair with the Queen of the Fay (who is the mother of the heroine’s mother) and the heroine’s true love’s sister is carried off by the King of the Fay and has a child with him, who may or may not be supposed to end up with the heroine’s half-sister... well, it gets complicated.


5,252 posted on 10/22/2007 7:58:35 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

*blink* *blink*

Yeah, OK, I need a diagram. ;-)


5,253 posted on 10/22/2007 8:01:52 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Rose in RoseBear
I'm researching the effects of an EMP on a small town. The pulse is non-nuclear in origin, aka NNEMP. It caused by a meteroid that broke up above the town, showering the whole area with glowing crystalline nodes and disabling all electronic devices. No phone. No modern cars (though I think there may be a Model T in town that works just fine). No water (rivers and lakes are currently flooded, and the wells in this area are over 145 feet deep). No ATVs. No TV, no radio, no internet. There are four roads in and out of town, and all four are impassably blocked, one way or the other.

Hmmm. If a model T works then a lot of older cars might. Stuff from the 60's and 70's. Even if certain parts don't work right more than a few might work if you push start them or even hotwire and then push them. Older airplanes will also work. Dad's 1946 Tailorcraft does not have any more electrics than a really old car. You have to spin the prop by hand to start it, there are no lights or batteries, and if you bring a handheld radio. If the magnetos survive then it would fly. Also, a good mechanic that knows a thing or two about older cars could get even a fairly modern car working given some time and spare parts and enough duct-tape. Newer ATVs would be down but a town that remote probably has some old jeeps or things around. At my grandparents 'ranch' in way northern middle of no place California they have a couple old 40's -50'ish jeeps. I am no sort of expert in EMPs but to take out most cars but not really old ones you probably will need to fuse most alternators. Look here about older 'magneto' based systems. Or just fudge it. I am really picky about such things.

The building that housed the cop shop and various municipal services, including volunteer fire department and the mayor's office, took a direct hit from a softball-sized chunk of crystal and stone. The whole building collapsed.

I think you need a bigger rock for that. THere have been cases of ones that big hitting things and they don't do enough to take out a building that size. Google some meteor impacts. Make it the size of a clothes washer and blow the place up.
5,254 posted on 10/22/2007 8:05:44 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Rose in RoseBear

Sounds like you got yer little town in deep doo-doo! ;o)


5,255 posted on 10/22/2007 8:12:40 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Overtaxed

*snort* I have a nightshirt with a design on it that’s a cat in a robe and slippers with a cup of coffee saying “Morning people slapped on sight!”


5,256 posted on 10/22/2007 8:15:27 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Corin Stormhands
Just dont' try to drink anything, or you'll embarrass yourself.
Dribble, dribble. ;o)
5,257 posted on 10/22/2007 8:18:06 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: RosieCotton

So do I :)

It’s not as complicated as all that... well, yeah, it is. I still have to figure out how the heroine’s stepfather fits into things. And why the heroine’s mother took certain actions she did.

And whether or not I can rename my heroine or if I’m stuck with “Eleanor”. Ugh. I hate the fact that the first name that I associate with a character usually sticks and I cna’t change it.


5,258 posted on 10/22/2007 8:18:09 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Same reason our cats are called Alpha and Beta.


5,259 posted on 10/22/2007 8:20:14 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: JenB

I have to figure out why the main guy (doctor) and a particular girl (who so far seems like a total drip) fall in love later in the story. And how exactly evidence comes up later that clears him. The simplest way would just be to have the murderer get caught doing something else and have him confess, but that seems like cheating.

I rather like Eleanor. I’m stuck with Sonya. Wanna trade?


5,260 posted on 10/22/2007 8:37:51 AM PDT by RosieCotton ("Anything worth doing is worth doing badly." -- G.K. Chesterton)
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