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To: tgambill
Lemme wrap this up for ya.
It was either Fidel Castro.
Or Joe Dimaggio.

I'll take Fidel. Fidel, that is, working with some of the same Mafia boys JFK was using to take him out. read:

Mafia Kingfish
John H. Davis, McGraw Hill 1989

Has some interesting sidebars on LHO's Louisiana Mob connections through his favorite Uncle, who was "looking out" for him at this time. I am susceptible to this line of research because I always thought it was Fidel, with KGB help.

110 posted on 05/14/2007 11:19:55 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Crazies to my left. Wimps to my right. BTW, Muslims ain't "Immigrants." They's Colonists.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Nope, Castro and Kennedy were in dialogue with a journalist as the middle guy. I have the entire interview from a photo copy of the newspaper report..........

Castro Reply to JFK comments on Cuba, New York Times; December 11, 1963, ProQuest Historical Newspaper, The New York Times, 1851- 2003

Article by Jean Daniel
Foreign Editor of L’Express
French Weekly Newspaper

From an interview with JFK, received at 1:45 PM, on October 24, 1963. The meeting was held at 5:30 PM.

Quote: “The night before the assassination, Dr. Castro spoke of the need for an American President who could understand and meet halfway the explosive problem of Latin America.”

CASTRO - “Kennedy could still be this man”, he said; “He still has the possibility of becoming the greatest president of the U.S., the leader who may at last understand that here can be co-existence between capitalist and Socialist, even in the Americas”. “He would then be an even greater President than Lincoln”. UNQUOTE BY CASTRO.


The article is quite long, and Castros response was to be brought back to JFK; if he had lived. I would be more inclined to believe this journalist and Castro than any CIA spokesman, of course. In addition, Castro was brought into power by us. One thing to note was our involvement in elevating Castro to Power over Baptiste. It happened much as with Trotsky, Lenin, and Stalin, without U.S. money and U.S. protection, Cuba would not exist today as a Communist nation. Take this quote, from Ambassador Earl Smith....The American Ambassador to Cuba during the Communist Revolution, he comments:

“To the contrary, Castro could not have seized power without the aid of the United States. American government agencies and the U.S. press played a major role in bringing Castro to power. As the U.S. Ambassador to Cuba during the Castro-Communist revolution of 1957 to 1959, I had first hand knowledge of the facts which brought about the rist of Fidel Castro. [Letter to the Editor; New York Times, September 26, 1979, p. A-24]

Even the Cuban Missle crisis, could undo the hold that Castro had, because both JFK and Robert could find no basis in fact for the CIA’s contention that there were missiles in Cuba. [Kennedy, Robert “Thirteen Days; A Memoir of the Cuban Missile Crisis”, The New American Library, New York, 1969, page 24]

In the same article, JFK had felt that the American government had actually created the Castro Movement and later imposed the Castro government down on the American people. During this same interview on October 24, 1963, JFK was quoted as saying, “I think we have spawned, constructed, entirely fabricated without knowing it, the Castro Movement”. He was assassinated about three weeks before the times printed the interview.

Nope, it certainly wasn’t Castro by any stretch of the imagination. Also, if you listen to the rhythm of the shorts fired from that rifle.....there is no way he could fired the two or three that were in quick succession....for starters. No, the Military Industrial Complex conducted a coup and made a statement, “Don’t mess with us”.....

CIA Confesses to Kennedy Assassination
Excerpts from Fatal Rebirth,with commentary

A Feral House Book by H. Michael Sweeney

Copyright (c) 1997 - All rights reserved

Permissions by Request


John F Kennedy Speech, April 27, 1961

American Newspaper Publishers Association. Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, New York, NY.

In a speech that should shock Americans. He warns the press and America to be on the lookout for the exact circumstances that have manifest themselves under the Bush Administration and the false flag of state sponsered terrorism.

This speech should chill Americans to the bone. Kennedy died trying to warn us. He wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve and the C.I.A.

On November 22, 1963, hardly past his first thousand days in office, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was killed by mutiple assassin’s bullets as his motorcade took and unscheduled turn in Dallas. Kennedy was the youngest man elected President; and youngest to die. The Secret Service was not by his side, they had been called off of his motorcade. Who would have the power to do this?

Graduating from Harvard in 1940, he entered the Navy. In 1943, when his PT boat was rammed and sunk by a Japanese destroyer, Kennedy, despite grave injuries, led the survivors through perilous waters to safety. He is a war hero.

Don’t let his death be in vain. This speech which has now transended time could be the key to saving America from the fate which looms over it like a dark spectre.

Author: John F. Kennedy Date: 1961-04-27 00:00:00 Source: John F. Kennedy Presidential Library Recorded by: White House «

Note: A lot of good people have spent decades chasing after an elusive and fragmented truth with respect to the JFK assassination. Most of them have earned only scorn and name calling as ‘conspiracy buffs’ or ‘conspiracy theorists’ by media and government disinformation resources. Many of them continue today without knowledge that the truth has largely been admitted by the group responsible. Many of the conspiracy hunters have been vindicated, while others still search in hopes of that ‘smoking gun.’ But what better smoking gun than a confession? And we have one! Read it here! It is now time to seek to go beyond JFK as far as wrestling with the various conspiracy theories. There is no need to waste energy there. There are now bigger questions to ask.

JFK died for a reason. The gunmen that pulled the trigger are nothing more than the extension of a greater unseen power, a power with the motive. Cracking that is where I would suggest your efforts should turn next — instead of making/defending the many alternative theories as to who did the deed itself (though some names are not yet known, and other names, like Bush, need more concrete ties drawn). Who did it is visible, who directed and who ordered them to do it, is less visible — though their shimmering form can be seen and seems to be firming up.

Take the trail to the the Three and Five “I”s, being careful to avoid the false leads suggesting they refer to the identities of Permindex, Division Five, American Council of Christian Churches, the Solidarists, and DISC. There are connections between the two assassinated Kennedys that are so ironic as to exceed the Greek tragedies. Go back to square one to the formation of OSS/CIA Follow the money from there forward. Remember: “The fascists are coming.”. If you know what a fascist is... you know what an elitist is... you know what a globalist is...

You might also ask: If CIA were to undertake an assassination of an American President (or anyone else), would not they lay careful contingency plans? What plan would they make for it going completely wrong, and blame coming back to Langley? How would they survive the public wrath had the media known and published the truth in ‘64 instead of publishing the Warren Commission?

The answer is a secret CIA within CIA (Shadow), one able to operate on its own infrastructure, and able to fund its own way through crime. Should Langley die, CIA would survive, but completely invisible and free of government oversight — something that might eventually be better for dark deeds than having CIA In fact, it might even explain why CIA is willing to expose itself to the JFK noose at this time: Shadow may well be fully prepared to replace CIA today. If such a thing as Shadow were to exist, what would it look like and do? The answer just might be the history since Kennedy (both history perceived through media filters and the reality of hidden truths behind the headlines), which can be expressed in oversimplified math, a math which some may not understand:

U2 + Lee Oswald = neutering of Ike; 40 + 40 + 40 = death of Camelot; Vietnam + Tonkin = Asian drug supply; Robert Vesco + Nugan Hand = financial superstructure; Langley - proprietaries being ‘disbanded’ = infrastructure (free of congressional oversight); Watergate + 5 Break Ins = Assassination of Nixon; Paisley “murder” + Bush = CIA purge (freeing agents for insertion into public sector and segregating agents by loyalties); War on Drugs = South American drug supply; MK-ULTRA/Artichoke + Cult Awareness Network = RFK (and more, including Jones Town and Waco); METC UNIT = WTC, OKC; Evergreen + Gordon’s = Orange shipments (capable of producing two kinds of highs); NSA + Clipper/Chipper = NRO in every home; Iran/Contra + Bush/Secord = Lockerbee; CFR + Trilateral Commission = Secret Government; LEA + NIA = In-place assets, Liddy Institute; Ingram + BR Fox = Offshore Murder, Inc. Arms Supply; ADL + B’nai Brith + CIA + Law Enforcement = Networking spy data on American Citizens; Media + CIA = Reuters, K. Graham, Time-Warner, CBS, Hilton Knowles and the rest; and I think I had better stop because I’m bound to have made enough enemies already or tossed out more than you care to consider, anyway. These are some of the things we discuss in our Group — the greater issue of the war at hand, not just one lost battle in 1963.

Enough food for thought — here is the post from the CIA news group. Be warned, however, that I have already had comment from CIA apologists who have been attacking this material for years by use of the 25 Rules of Disinformation (variants on misdirection, confusion, non-logic logic, disinformation, disparaging attacks on sources, and so forth), and they are well prepared to use their arguments on you. Should you be unprepared to deal with the trickery of their non-arguments, just ask two questions of them when they do — and they must wither away. If there are any better confessions from other sources out there, where are they (can they provide an alternative conclusion with better credentials — or are they just attacking this one)? In absence of other officious proofs, why do they try so hard to destroy this one? Know your enemy by their actions.
CIA Confesses to Kennedy Assassination
Trial Testimony by Deposition Under Oath of CIA agent Marita Lorenz From the Defamation Trial of E. Howard Hunt vs. Liberty Lobby United States District Court for Southern District of Florida, January 1985

What follows is the ultimate indictment of E. Howard Hunt and other Operation 40 CIA (AKA Operation Zapata, AKA Bay of Pigs Invasion) agents for the murder of John Kennedy. That not one media representative present at the trial dared print a single word indicts media as being Shadow controlled. That this same testimony was given to FBI within days of the assassination is an indictment of the Justice Department as being Shadow controlled. That the judge presiding over the trial did not order follow-up investigation or indictments for murder is an indictment of the court system as being Shadow controlled. That the same testimony was given the Rockefeller Commission (CFR/Bilderberger/TriLateralist) House Select Committee on Assassinations and nothing was done with the information is an indictment of Congressional oversight as being Shadow controlled.

Note: The remainder of the article provides the transcript in question. Note: This is the second most popular file on this Web site, but interestingly, the most frequent source of downloads is the United States Justice Department. It seems that some people in the system understand that something is wrong with the system! At least one Justice Department lawyer has resigned his post as result of this and similar frustrations.


111 posted on 05/14/2007 12:31:16 PM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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