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Posted on 04/24/2007 6:37:34 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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Now all we need is a linux environment that just “recognizes” a windows executable and just “knows” to run that executable in a virtual environment. No VMWare, no WINE, just recognizes and runs. Would that be a killer application? I think so.
The problem with that is you need all of the windows libraries and system calls needed by the exe, thats what wine is. Wine is an attempt to impliment the win32api on *nix.
YOu may want to look at crossover office, a more rebust version of wine.
If IBM can do what they have done here, I don’t see how (theoretically, given enough time and resources) this couldn’t some day be done. It might not give the performance that a hardcore gamer might need/want but it would allow me to run the 1 or 2 or 3 critical apps that I want to run that do not have linux versions. I can truly see this happening, some day.
1) Like I said I think crossover office can do alot of it
2) IBM did not have to hit a moving target with Linux and had a better set of published API's
What Appps are we talking about?
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/
Isn't this what WINE does?
Well certainly Quicken for one. Another is a proprietary app that I use in my company related to ip telephony. There are alternatives, workarounds, etc. etc. but as a user I want things to “just work”. There is also certain versions of either adobe flash or shockwave or something like that where there are issues. We’re getting closer all the time but still not “there” yet.
This is more like qemu (but still quite different) it takes x86 instructions and passes them to a different architecture at run time. I have a Power 185 under my desk dying to try this out.
Isn’t this what WINE does?
Check out codeweavers ‘crossover’
In the case of Quicken you can see it gets a “Bronze” rating. Not a Silver, not a Gold but a Bronze.
I have a windows box and a linux box side by side with a KVM setup. Why would I want to run in “Bronze” mode when I can switch to KVM and get “Gold”? Answer -— I don’t. Like I said, I want things to “just work”. Maybe that’s just me LOL.
Curious, if you ran quicken through crossover it would be the windows version of quicken running.
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/4405/1/
And this was 2002, their support and ease of use is far better now. If you want to keep using windows thats fine but dont state something factually incorrect as a reason...
What did I say that was factually incorrect? I never said what you said I said. Strange...
You are implying that xover and quicken dont just work on Linux.
Way complicated!
More and more I miss the days
of small memory Forths . . .
Forth is the ultimate imperative programming language, the easiest HLL to port, etc. In recent years folks have started to realize complex multithreaded c++ does not equal sophisticated performance. In efficient distributed systems, e.g. network applications, I now see a lot of single-threaded eventloop code maintaining state-machines to infer global knowledge coupled with custom hardware. Reminds me very much of forth programming.
Can someone please find the marketing department at IBM, take them out back, and blow their brains out please?
Already done during the OS/2 fiasco.
You're seeing the results of brainless marketroids now.
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