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Vista Taking a Nibble Out of Apple in OS Wars?
Apple Slashdot ^ | april 6,2007 | zonk?

Posted on 04/07/2007 11:04:23 AM PDT by aft_lizard

"Despite all of the positive buzz about the Mac operating system and the 'halo effect' of iPod sales, Mac OS X market share actually dropped last month, reports Computerworld: 'The share of PowerPC-based Macs fell ... from 4.29% in February to 3.94% in March. That dip was not fully offset by an increase in Intel-based Mac hardware, leading to a overall net decline in Mac share of 0.3%, to 6.08% in March.' Meanwhile, Vista is rising, the article says, with just over 2% of computers connected to the Internet using the new Windows OS. The figures are from a company called Net Applications, which collects its data from the browsers of visitors to its network of 40,000+ Web sites"


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; microsoft; osx; vista
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To: Porterville

Yeah. 9 billion flies eat dung. bon appetit.


21 posted on 04/07/2007 2:05:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: coconutt2000
I am back. I found the site where the core statistics come from. Sorry for the formatting, I am just going to copy the source code so it may become a little jumbled.

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=5
 Month   Windows XP   Windows 2000   Mac OS   MacIntel   Windows 98   Other 
 April, 2006   81.79%   7.68%   4.33%   0.16%   3.23%   2.81% 
 May, 2006   81.93%   7.78%   4.19%   0.23%   3.15%   2.72% 
 June, 2006   82.68%   7.42%   3.92%   0.36%   2.95%   2.68% 
 July, 2006   83.65%   6.74%   3.80%   0.49%   2.68%   2.65% 
 August, 2006   84.18%   6.54%   3.71%   0.62%   2.40%   2.55% 
 September, 2006   84.56%   6.08%   3.88%   0.84%   2.24%   2.41% 
 October, 2006   84.62%   5.79%   4.09%   1.12%   2.04%   2.34% 
 November, 2006   84.95%   5.46%   4.10%   1.29%   1.90%   2.31% 
 December, 2006   85.30%   5.00%   4.15%   1.52%   1.77%   2.26% 
 January, 2007   85.02%   4.93%   4.34%   1.88%   1.63%   2.20% 
 February, 2007   84.33%   4.75%   4.29%   2.09%   1.50%   3.03% 
 March, 2007   83.57%   4.71%   3.94%   2.14%   1.36%   4.28% 
Report generated Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:47:45 PM



22 posted on 04/07/2007 3:07:44 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: HAL9000
What do I not know about? Please enlighten me, superior one.... Mac Sux... this we can at least agree upon.... I mean you do know Mac Sux... or are you in denial?
23 posted on 04/07/2007 3:10:16 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: aft_lizard
The figures are from a company called Net Applications, which collects its data from the browsers of visitors to its network of 40,000+ Web sites"

One major problem - Safari (Apple's own browser) and Firefox (the other of the top two in browsers for the Macintosh) both can (and often are) set up to report themselves as Microsoft IE for Windows simply for compatibility. Yes, there are web sites - that will not function correctly if your browser reports itself as an Apple or other non-MS browser. 99,9% there is no actual compatibility issue - the developer is just lazy.

And I posted something on another board last week that fits here - so here it goes:

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Just this afternoon, I stopped in the CompUSA in Little Rock to pick up a SD card reader. I always make a quick loop through the Apple area. HOLY COW! I have never seen it so busy. Most looking seriously at Macbooks and Macbook Pros in particular. I have never seen 5 redshirts (CompUSA employees), and the Apple guy all working just the Apple area. There was one lonely redshirt in the Windows laptop section - and he had no customers - and was "busy" sending someone a text message...

The only incentive being offered was on the 20" iMac - and that was a $100 eRebate. I saw several machines go to the front to check out.

Even the normally non-Mac redshirts were mostly making sense and telling the truth to the customers. The fellow at the front check-out said it has blown him away how many Macbooks and Macbook pros they have sold in the last couple of weeks. he said they were completely sold out of the MacPro towers.

24 posted on 04/07/2007 3:40:18 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: Porterville
Mac sux, 92% of the world agrees.

Ugh... another Anti-Apple Troll.

A much better statement - 92% don't know any better or have never even tried it.

25 posted on 04/07/2007 3:47:30 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman

Browsers don’t spoof an OS, they arent saying oh look they are using IE so therefore they are using a windows OS. They are looking at what OS your browser is using, which is easily done as it is sent by you every time your PC accesses anything on the internet. They have a seperate section for browsers.


26 posted on 04/07/2007 3:51:07 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: TheBattman

A much much better statement “92% windows, the rest use whatever. Of those 92% the majority have likely only used windows but know of others, another smaller percentage have tried other OS’s but decided the vast array of support an programs as well as hardware compatibility and customizability is far better in there own opinion than any other OS. Mac users simply smoke weed.”(yes the last statement on Mac users was a joke)


27 posted on 04/07/2007 3:54:25 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aft_lizard

According to THOSE figures, the total Mac market share INCREASED from 4.49% to 6.08%. I don’t see that as loosing market share by any standard.


28 posted on 04/07/2007 3:56:19 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: aft_lizard
Source of major confusion is the author is confusing an attempt to quantify install base with market share.

Definition of market share: "Market share refers to a brand's share of the total sales of all products within the product category in which the brand competes. Market share is determined by dividing a brand's sales volume by the total category sales volume."

Given that, web analytics aren't an accurate measurement of market share or install base, except to note that the majority of persons who access the monitored web sites use Windows machines. Extrapolation beyond this is difficult to certify, and concluding that the results of such a survey are conclusive, is disingenuous.

So, the author was apparently confused, and thus he has confused you. And all claims to the contrary of Apple's success is diminished by the fact that Apple is continuing to grow their market, grow their install base, and make inroads in the popular consumer electronics market with iPods, and the soon to be iPhone. Apple Deniers are in the same boat as Democrats when it comes to denying the success of someone just because their politics or their operating system disagrees with your own, their own tastes.

Macs work. Apple makes lots of money. Move on... Seriously.

29 posted on 04/07/2007 3:59:05 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: TheBattman

4.29%+2.09%=6.38% in February
3.94%+2.14%=6.08% in March

Sure looks like it shrunk to me since Vista was released.


30 posted on 04/07/2007 3:59:46 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: coconutt2000

You do realize that the site being used isnt going by sales but rather how many computers are actually being used?


31 posted on 04/07/2007 4:01:47 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: coconutt2000

Oh please, also Aplle Deniers the same as democrats? LOL APple users are democrats, I mean no choice in customizing the hardware, you can’t just build your own from scratch. I mean its users actually believe and tell all others that OS X never crashes, when they indeed do. Apple is only good for computing is it offers a choice, if it was the only game in town we would be living in a 1984 world of computing with no competition in hardware, heck who knows how far backwards technology would be if it was only Apple. No thank you I prefer freedom, I prefer to get dirty and build from scratch and choose what processor company, what sound card, what video card company, what motherboard maker and not be married to almighty Apple’s decision of whats best for me. The OS of Apple I have no problem with, but Apples closed hardware platform is nothing I want to do with.


32 posted on 04/07/2007 4:08:10 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aft_lizard
LOL APple users are democrats

Apple users like President Bush, Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh are Democrats? It sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

33 posted on 04/07/2007 4:22:43 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Yeah, I see that you got him on calling Windows users democrats, alrighty. Of course you know the hippy crowd is what Apple is famous for, but lets not ignore that, or its the favorite of the hollywood elite, musicians, artists etc all Republicans(do I need sarcasm?). And BTW We are talking the Apple computer not ipod, I dont even think Bush owns a Mac(Oh wait he doesn’t he owns a Dell http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-521678.html ). I don’t know if Rove does either (probably not unless independently confirmed). So that leaves Rush as the most pre-eminent Republican user of an Apple Computer.


34 posted on 04/07/2007 4:29:25 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Swordmaker

In other words, the company selling door-to-door Fire Insurance has come around with a new product.

Some of us just got tired of being pushed around.


35 posted on 04/07/2007 4:30:22 PM PDT by IslandJeff (There will be Democrats in heaven, except they'll be too busy organizing the staff)
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To: TheBattman

I know better, and mac still sucks.


36 posted on 04/07/2007 5:21:56 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: aft_lizard
Yep - as displayed in this photo:


37 posted on 04/07/2007 6:00:33 PM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: TheBattman

Good thing he doesnt/didnt have a BSOD when the pic was taken, I bet he also gets good batteries from Dell.


38 posted on 04/07/2007 6:03:48 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: aft_lizard
I dont even think Bush owns a Mac. . .

That's a Powerbook Mac. It's in his office at the ranch.

39 posted on 04/07/2007 7:24:33 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE)
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To: Swordmaker

Then I take it he lied about his Dell in the interview? I guess that may be a Apple by the monitor, I can’t tell its too small.


40 posted on 04/07/2007 7:27:15 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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