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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I don't know what you mean about "that's still not what you meant, is it?" You sound like a nut. Well, of course places are available if you have money. If you'd pull your head out of your a-- for a few minutes you might realize that many drug addicts aren't exactly carrying around extra money for help (let me guess, their families undoubtedly have the money for it)? My point is that there isn't enough money for treatment. Get rid of the idiotic laws and crazy artificial profit margins and spend the money on treatment. We'd all be better off for it.

With choices come consequences...I know that drug addicts don't have a lot of money at their disposal. You weren't looking for treatment for addicts, you were looking for treatment for addicts at the expense of those who are not addicts...gumment paid. If I don't believe in subsidized treatment for drunks, why would I believe in subsidized treatment for crackheads?

What addicts do is either my business, or not...if it's not my business, it's not my problem. I have no interest in subsidizing a lifestyle I recognize as destructive. If an addict has the right to drink/smoke/shoot up/whatever, then they have the right to lay in the ditch until they feel better, or die.

I hope that was clear enough for you...drugs seem to have affected the function of your brain cells.

23 posted on 02/09/2007 8:22:39 PM PST by gogeo
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To: johnmark7
Yeah, the Drug War is such a waste of time and money. Just like the Murder War and the Rape War and the Theft War. Those haven't worked either.

Half the 16,000 murders in the USA last year went unsolved. Why do we even bother when the effort is such a waste?

And rapes? Geez, there must have been hundreds of thousands that never even got reported. It's time to give up crime fighting. You just can't stop it.
24 posted on 02/09/2007 9:24:34 PM PST by johnmark7
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To: gogeo

If pot was legal, it would be taxed, use the tax money to pay for the treatment programs.
jack


26 posted on 02/09/2007 9:55:51 PM PST by btcusn (Giving up the right to arms is a mistake a free people get to make only once.)
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To: gogeo
I understand what you are saying. However, you seem to be living in a world of theory and are not thinking about reality.

The government already spends billions trying to deal with drugs, so apparently the government (i.e. the people) thinks that what addicts do affects others. Do you not agree?

My point is simply that the government could spend a lot less money and still have the same result. BTW, your message is clear to me the first time. For some reason the meaning of your first two cryptic messages of "that's not what you really mean, is it" weren't clear enough for my drug riddled brain (you effing idiot).
32 posted on 02/10/2007 4:55:50 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: gogeo

With choices come consequences...I know that drug addicts don't have a lot of money at their disposal. You weren't looking for treatment for addicts, you were looking for treatment for addicts at the expense of those who are not addicts...gumment paid. If I don't believe in subsidized treatment for drunks, why would I believe in subsidized treatment for crackheads?

What addicts do is either my business, or not...if it's not my business, it's not my problem. I have no interest in subsidizing a lifestyle I recognize as destructive. If an addict has the right to drink/smoke/shoot up/whatever, then they have the right to lay in the ditch until they feel better, or die.

You don't get it. You are already paying for it. You are paying for all of the people in jail for nonviolent drug offenses that carry mandatory minimum sentences (taking the place of guys like John Couey and other Pedophiles).

You are already subsidizing the lifestyle of those involved in the drug trade, not the addicts but the dealers at the higher levels. You are paying through the nose in taxes to support the govt's efforts to enforce the black market monopoly on the narcotics trade.

You pay also, and most expensively by having your individual liberties chipped away, day by day, year by year.

Ask yourself this. Why do we not get tax credits or rebates when the police seize millions of drug dollars? Where does that money go? What do they do with the drugs they confiscate and where do they get the drugs to set up sting operations? When is the WOD supposed to end, what defines success, will our civil liberties be returned once the WOD is successful? What other "Wars" is our govt. involved in that are evolving along the same lines?


89 posted on 02/13/2007 12:05:48 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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