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Vista Wins on Looks. As for Lacks...
The New York Times ^ | December 14, 2006 | David Pogue

Posted on 12/13/2006 8:22:40 PM PST by Zakeet

After five years of starts, stops, executive shuffling, feature rethinks and delays, Windows Vista is finally complete. It’s available to corporations already, and starting Jan. 30, it’s what you’ll get on any new PC. Its programmers, who probably haven’t seen their families in months, will have an especially merry Christmas this year.

So after five years, how is Windows Vista? Microsoft’s description, which you’ll soon be seeing in millions of dollars’ worth of advertising, is “Clear, Confident, Connected.” But a more truthful motto would be “Looks, Locks, Lacks.”

Looks

Windows Vista is beautiful. Microsoft has never taken elegance so seriously before.

Discreet eye candy is partly responsible. Windows and menus cast subtle shadows. A new typeface gives the whole affair a fresh, modern feeling. Subtle animations liven up the proceedings.

If the description so far makes Vista sound a lot like the Macintosh, well, you’re right. You get the feeling that Microsoft’s managers put Mac OS X on an easel and told the programmers, “Copy that.”

Here are some of the grace notes that will remind you of similar ones on the Mac: A list of favorite PC locations appears at the left side of every Explorer window, which you can customize just by dragging folders in or out. You now expand or collapse lists of folders by clicking little flippy triangles. When you’re dragging icons to copy them, a cursor “badge” appears that indicates how many you’re moving. The Minimize, Maximize and Close buttons glow when your cursor passes over them. There’s now a keystroke (Alt+up arrow) to open the current folder’s parent window, the one that contains it.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; operatingsystems; review; vista
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To: Echo Talon
Vista will then pool the NAND device for the files, rather than power-up the hard drive.

I think "pool" should be "poll."

81 posted on 12/14/2006 10:17:22 PM PST by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski
Sven Olsen

I am a Norwegian native living in Chicago. I moved to the US in 2004 after I graduated from the University of Olso (UiO) with a focus in mathematics. When I am not writing I work part time as an actuary for law firms in Chicago.

You can email me at sven at dailytech.com.

Contact Sven... Actually he sounds like me, I was better in math than I was in English(my worst subject).

82 posted on 12/14/2006 10:23:08 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: antiRepublicrat
This isn't a problem with the idea, but a problem with Microsoft's implementation. The gee-whiz eye candy on OS X is rendered by even the embedded Intel 950 graphics chipset that ships with the low-end Macs.

MS may well have a terrible implementation. But whether the eye candy takes a little overhead or a lot, it's still an unnecessary distraction that interferes with getting things done.

Again, a Microsoft problem. Unix (of which OS X is a variant) lets you do pretty much everything you need without having root ("Administrator" in Windows).

It's true that XP doesn't make it as easy to run as root, although my understanding is that this is one of the areas Vista has improved. But "pretty much everything [I] need" isn't available in a non-Microsoft OS, so relative ease of root access in other operating systems is moot.

My definition of "productivity" in an OS isn't how easy it is to install programs, or how many open-source free apps are available, or how "smooth" the interface is. It's whether my business data is presented to me in a clear, universal format. It's whether I can have a detailed list of every one of my customers, with a list of all our previous interactions, that gets every email and every document sent or received automatically linked to that client for easy browsing. It's whether I can get a file in one vendor's format, cut and paste objects into my own preferred editing format, and then send the compiled info out in a third format, and have all of that data at my fingertips when and how I want it. MS, for whatever technical faults its software may have, understands that despite my tech background I measure computers and OSs in terms of what they do for me and my business, not how flashy their technical specs are.

83 posted on 12/14/2006 10:34:41 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Southack
How is having Wordpad in Vista unable to open the same MS Word files that can be opened by XP's Wordpad, "better?"

you use Jarte.... its free... and better than wordpad...

84 posted on 12/14/2006 10:42:11 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

That's not Vista. That's a 3rd party ap.


85 posted on 12/14/2006 10:46:25 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

well.. how about "word viewer"?(its free) thats the app that MS asks you to use...


86 posted on 12/14/2006 10:58:12 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
actually... Jarte does NOT work... I just tried it and it asks you to download a converter from MS but that one is NOT compatible with Vista(its a win95 version)... so... IF you just want to read the .doc file with "MS Word Viewer" and "copy/paste" it into jarte that would work...

You're best bet would be openoffice.org(free) I just downloaded/installed and tested it and it works fine.

87 posted on 12/14/2006 11:20:02 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Southack
actually... Jarte does NOT work... I just tried it and it asks you to download a converter from MS but that one is NOT compatible with Vista(its a win95 version)... so... IF you just want to read the .doc file with "MS Word Viewer" and "copy/paste" it into jarte that would work...

You're best bet would be openoffice.org(free) I just downloaded/installed and tested it and it works fine.

88 posted on 12/14/2006 11:20:29 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Southack
and yes "MS Word Viewer" is free also....(but its just a viewer, no editing functions) openoffice.org(free) seems to be the best alternative for the poor like me in this situation....

I really like the new office 2007 but don't have $ right now....

89 posted on 12/14/2006 11:23:46 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Turbopilot
MS may well have a terrible implementation. But whether the eye candy takes a little overhead or a lot, it's still an unnecessary distraction that interferes with getting things done.

With the exception of the concept of the Dock, which was put in to woo Windows users, the effects generally help your experience and aid productivity. For example, Expose is a far better visual way to switch between a multitude of open Windows than the task bar or Alt-Tab. We may be used to Alt-Tab and are therefore quick with it, but it's an unnatural trained way of switching. Having all of your windows laid out in front of you for the picking is much better.

90 posted on 12/15/2006 6:03:06 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: speekinout
When has Apple encouraged users to buy updates to the OS?

If you count advertising as encouragement, or stating the date OS 9 will no longer be supported as encouragement, then quite often.

91 posted on 12/15/2006 6:08:11 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Echo Talon
i;d personally rather have a smart phone that can play music, take pictures/video voice record, text message/email, phone

I've usually found that multifunction phone/mp3/camera devices do not do all of the functions well, except for maybe a phone being a voice recorder since it's designed to talk into anyway. For example, I like small mp3 players, but I do not want a phone the size of my nano unless somebody made a modern shrunk Nokia 8110 (the Matrix phone, my second cell phone). Or worse a Shuffle, unless it's reliably voice controlled, which would be cool. I prefer phones to be a bit larger and ergonomic, but not the size it would take to fit in a video player screen or a quality camera lens and CCD (lens size matters, and smaller CCDs introduce more noise at the same resolution of larger ones).

I once bought one of these high-end multi-function devices (including PDA), and it really didn't do any one thing well. I ditched it in favor of the actual devices. I also had one of the first mp3-playing phones five years ago -- rarely used the mp3 bit.

Wait, I have an idea. Take an 8110, make it skinnier and a touch wider with modern technology, and make most of the curved front one big flexible wide aspect ratio PLED screen, keypad available when you slide it. I'd buy that with a video/mp3 player in it if it had at least 16 GB capacity.

92 posted on 12/15/2006 6:49:28 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

we are getting there, I believe the smart phone/all-in-one will be the future.


93 posted on 12/15/2006 9:57:16 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Zakeet

I worked at a major electronic and appliance store for a few months earlier this year in the computer department, and the feedback I got from a couple guys beta-testing: one hated it completely, the other liked it, as long as you have four gigs of RAM.

My advice to anybody thinking of buying a new lap or desktop: Buy it now!!!


94 posted on 12/15/2006 10:11:22 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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To: Echo Talon
we are getting there, I believe the smart phone/all-in-one will be the future.

Well, Apple's coming out with their "iPhone," so let's see what they can do. Ive's attention to detail and close relation with the engineers and manufacturers, and Jobs' anal retentiveness should produce a pretty good product, but I'm still skeptical.

95 posted on 12/15/2006 10:35:11 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

they really should add in a camera(even if its only 2mp it comes in handy)


96 posted on 12/15/2006 10:43:43 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: antiRepublicrat
read this

This XBOX 360 HD-DVD Drive works on Wondows And Mac... ;)

97 posted on 12/15/2006 10:45:05 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: antiRepublicrat
I'm using Distribution Release: SabayonLinux 3.2 as a live DVD right now with XGL and Beryl wow this is neat... give it a shot... ;) its pretty cool
98 posted on 12/15/2006 10:48:15 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: antiRepublicrat

Its got Quake IV Demo and Cold War Demo on the DVD... ;)
See how the window look like liquid/jelly? hehe

99 posted on 12/15/2006 10:56:50 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
they really should add in a camera(even if its only 2mp it comes in handy)

Nobody knows the specs, so it might be in there. However, I would prefer a 1mp camera for the sensor sizes you find in cameras. Think of it this way: Remember the quality of 35mm film? The sensor on even pocket digital cameras can be only a couple hundredths the size of 35mm. The only way to get both quality and pixels (not even counting the lens) is to make a larger sensor, which you will never find in small phone with it's tiny battery.

100 posted on 12/15/2006 11:20:53 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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