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Local handwriting expert says he believes Karr wrote ransom note
Jackson Daily Progress ^ | August 19, 2006 05:28 pm | Kelly Young

Posted on 08/20/2006 6:17:00 PM PDT by Halls

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To: dcam; Rte66

We're (RTE FYI)interested!


61 posted on 08/21/2006 7:19:30 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama
There's a lot more in that note that suggests that Karr wrote it. His punctuation for one thing, the use of exclamation marks in particular. He hasn't changed the style from the old days...he keeps to the old friendly letter format.

He's sarcastic Don't try to grow a brain John....and that attitude shows up in the yearbook in (unlike your loving sister).

Then there's the words themselves....Talking about bad things that happened, Karr writes: "Blurred by my own eyes" in the yearbook.

Suwart said the suspect described the encounter as "a blur". That's a very unusual word to describe a murder scene.

Bet "blur" is a favorite word of his just like he uses exclamations much more freely than most of us would.

Wonder what the odds are on a LONG, carefully punctuated ransom note with a lot of exclamation points and "Victory" at the end.

62 posted on 08/21/2006 8:06:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: dcam

His booking info in LA says 5'7" and weight 140. Hey, he crushed his beer can in his hand on the plane last night, lol.

Here's the jail info - put in his name to pull up the info:

http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm

Also, here are the links to all the recent FR threads on JonBenet and Karr:

JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case Suspect
FR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-21, 2006

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1686829/posts?page=2#2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1686829/posts?page=460#460


63 posted on 08/21/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: hoosiermama; Rte66
In December 2000, I didn't know that John was a child molester/kiddie porn collector, though I did know he was really strange and didn't treat Lara with any respect.

So there I was at the company Christmas party, sitting at a table with my ex, Lara, John, and another couple we'll call Michelle and Rich. Michelle was about 31 or so, somewhat attractive, and though not married to Rich, they have lived together for many years. John was seated between Lara and Michelle.
The wine was flowing and John was drinking more than most. He was in full blown salesman mode and was trying his best to charm Michelle. It was almost like he thought no one else was around. He danced with Michelle many times, though he never danced with Lara. Rich thought it was wierd, but didn't act jealous. Later that evening John was holding Michelle's hand under the table(it was obvious), and you could see that Lara was very embarrassed and humiliated(though Rich seemed to think it was funny, sort-of). At one point, in the men's room, John was reciting poetry and babbling about Michelle. Yes, he was drunk. During their last dance, John appeared to stumble and fell to the ground pulling Michelle down underneath him.
Since John and Lara lived close to me, and John would never let Lara drive his crappy Jaguar, I offered to give them a ride home. While Lara was retrieving a few things and locking their car, John was sitting in my backseat with his head hanging out the door babbling things like, "I've blown it, she'll never love me now...oh my Michelle...she's so wonderful...". The whole evening had been surreal.

At some point in the future, Lara told me that this was typical behavior.

What I find most odd about this, is that Michelle was actually a few years older than Lara and looked 30-something, while Lara was 27 and could have passed for 18.
64 posted on 08/21/2006 8:28:00 AM PDT by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Good observations.


65 posted on 08/21/2006 8:39:59 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: dcam

So John wasn't just a school teacher - he was a salesman at the company whose Christmas party you went to?

Maybe I should read back, if you have already explained this. Thanks for the insight.


66 posted on 08/21/2006 8:46:11 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

No, he wasn't a salesman for our company, Lara was the company employee. I meant he was selling himself to Michelle.


67 posted on 08/21/2006 8:48:09 AM PDT by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Working only from memory, which often fails me, I believe it is a bowline knot, with some extra twists.

The knot expert who consulted with the BPD was named Van Tassel and I don't think I ever saw his analysis. It may be sealed or may have been inconclusive.

The photos reminded me of the type of knot that is tied to the cleat on the dock to secure a smaller boat - over, under, over, under and around, then snugged. But I couldn't see the underside of the knot on the stick to see if there were some other path of the rope.


68 posted on 08/21/2006 8:55:42 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: dcam

Oh, I see. Was this in CA?


69 posted on 08/21/2006 8:56:40 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Yes. The Christmas party was at the Luther Burbank Center in Santa Rosa.


70 posted on 08/21/2006 9:01:59 AM PDT by rivercat (Welcome to California. Now go home.)
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To: Rte66; sandbar

RE: knots

Was Karr ever a boy scout? Don't they teach such things?


71 posted on 08/21/2006 9:05:27 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

He was a babysitter/tutor....and probably red cross certified. I was thinking "tourniquet" when I first saw the "thing"....but that's from war movies.


72 posted on 08/21/2006 9:13:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: dcam

>>>I do have a wierd story about the 2000 company Christmas party(he was there) if anyone is interested.>>>

I'd like to hear it!


73 posted on 08/21/2006 9:26:47 AM PDT by sandbar
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>>>Someone who might think all the kidnap plots he had watched in the movies were really cool. A ten year old who watched movies could write that note.>>>

You really think a 9 year old boy has handwriting like that?? You don't have children, do you?

Also, that note was way to advanced for even the smartest 9 year old.


74 posted on 08/21/2006 9:27:59 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: hoosiermama

>>>Was Karr ever a boy scout? Don't they teach such things?>>>

Don't know for sure about him being a boyscout.


75 posted on 08/21/2006 9:31:07 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

See 61.


76 posted on 08/21/2006 9:39:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

>>>See 61.>>>

I'm confused.


77 posted on 08/21/2006 10:12:46 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

My bad: should have been post 64.


78 posted on 08/21/2006 10:16:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

>>>My bad: should have been post 64.>>>

Gotcha.


79 posted on 08/21/2006 10:17:35 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: dcam

>>>What I find most odd about this, is that Michelle was actually a few years older than Lara and looked 30-something, while Lara was 27 and could have passed for 18.>>>

What did "Michelle" look like? Features wise.


80 posted on 08/21/2006 10:17:59 AM PDT by sandbar
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