go to this link-http://www.kron.com/Global/category.asp?C=8554&nav=menu130_1
scroll down to where it says "Womans says Karr told her about Ramsey"
Thanks for that link...very interesting to say the least....this open-house she was referring to can be easily checked...he went with his brother, also John Ramsey has said he has never heard of Karr, but this woman says John Mark's brother worked for Ramsey at one time, another thing that could be easily checked through payment records...
Thanks.