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Firefox privacy but lets others see where you've been visiting [my title]
Mozilla.org ^ | 2006-03-17 | anonymous

Posted on 04/17/2006 5:58:28 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat

Something nobody thought of: Sure, Mozilla deletes various sensitive information at the click of a button, but where you've been browsing is hidden elsewhere in a useful feature. Here's the bug:

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This privacy flaw has caused my fiancé and I to break-up after having dated for 5 years.

Basically, we share one computer but under separate Windows XP user accounts. We both use Mozilla Firefox -- well, he used to use it more than I do but now we don't really use it. The privacy flaw is this: when he went to log-in under his dating sites (jdate.com, swinglifestyle.com, adultfriendfinder.com, etc.), Mozilla promptly asks whether or not he'd like Firefox to save the passwords for him. He chose never, obviously. However, when he logged off his user account, and I logged onto my Windows XP account X amount of days later, I decided to use Firefox because hey -- it loaded everything much more efficiently, was better to work on with website designs and is a lot more stable than IE7beta2.

Firefox prompted whether or not I'd like it to save my password for logging into my website. I chose never and changed my mind. I went into the Password Manager to change the saved password option from Never to Always and that's when I saw all these other sites that had been selected as "Never Save Password." Of course, those were sites I had never visited or could ever dream of visiting.

Then I realized who, how and what... and sh*t hit the fan. Your browser does not efficiently respect the privacy of different users for one system.

Reproducible: Always

(Excerpt) Read more at bugzilla.mozilla.org ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: browser; firefox; passwords; privacy
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To: Senator Bedfellow
O.k. You're right. "B)" was the key. The old profile will be kept unless you delete it yourself.

This caused me problems with very early versions of FF (actually Phoenix). In the early betas, things could break massively from one rev to another, and you'd actually have to go in and manually kill your existing profile or the program would die upon startup (or act squirrely in other ways).

61 posted on 04/17/2006 10:44:01 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma
Same here - I just got in the habit of moving bookmarks.html and cookies.txt out, and then wiping out the profile.

Ah, well - I suppose FF actually did this lady a favor ;)

62 posted on 04/17/2006 10:48:25 AM PDT by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Same here - I just got in the habit of moving bookmarks.html and cookies.txt out, and then wiping out the profile.

It got me into the habit of backing up my profile on a regular basis. My bookmarks.html file has transferred from the first copy of Netscape I ever ran. It would suck much if I lost them IMO.

63 posted on 04/17/2006 11:36:08 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: KeyLargo
Did your ex-boyfriend enjoy "Brokeback Mountain?"

After a private email exchange K.L., I realize that you were directing that comment at the original poster (and not to me), I have asked that my post #37 be sh*tcanned, and my apologies for (groan) a case of premature exasperation on my part...gawd, what a Monday. :(
64 posted on 04/17/2006 12:37:15 PM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

You definitely painted a scenario which would produce the results she described and given the likelihood of the other theories tossed out your chain of events is most likely what happened (Occum's razor), and I'm sure a jury would buy it as well ;) I don't use FF so I don't know for sure how it works, I was describing applications in general. Creators of an app throwing a setting in HKLM instead of HKCU is fairly common.


65 posted on 04/17/2006 1:08:57 PM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: contemplator
Creators of an app throwing a setting in HKLM instead of HKCU is fairly common.

You don't have to tell me - nothing is more aggravating than apps like that. It totally breaks security, but of course it works for the developers because they're always running as admins when they test the thing, and it never occurs to them to try it with lower privileges. Sigh. ;)

66 posted on 04/17/2006 1:17:49 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow
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To: TommyDale

There are people who would probably sue Firefox on such grounds. All they need is the OJ jury to award them millions where even no sympathy is due.


67 posted on 04/17/2006 2:09:37 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: antiRepublicrat
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What he should have done is created his own profile in Firefox. Not a lot of people are that savvy, but providing a way (e.g. cheat sheet, instructions, etc.) to do this would help dramatically.

I run my computer with 6 accounts on my computer (2 WinXP, 3 Linux, Linux root) All six have their own profiles.

End result--no problems.

What should be emphasized is for people to clear their profile when they uninstall--or perhaps ask the user whether they want to save their configuration somewhere (floppy, Desktop, USB stick, etc.) and then automatically delete the master profile.

68 posted on 04/17/2006 3:22:45 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: zeugma
I know that on Linux systems, the situation described is not possible

LOL!

69 posted on 04/18/2006 5:09:45 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: All

As usual, the resident troll has nothing to contribute to the thread.


70 posted on 04/18/2006 5:25:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma

Making fun of your endless bogus assertions has plenty of point, we wouldn't want others believing them as fact now would we?


71 posted on 04/18/2006 5:30:33 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: All

The Troll still contributes nothing to the thread. Then again, we don't expect much of trolls.


72 posted on 04/18/2006 7:06:31 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma

Constantly correcting the "linux lies" makes me a troll? LOL!


73 posted on 04/18/2006 7:35:27 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

By all means troll, could you please describe where on this thread you were 'Constantly correcting the "linux lies"'.


74 posted on 04/18/2006 8:16:07 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Explain how it would be possible for one user to see another's preferences on a Linux/POSIX system, please.

Otherwise, you've just told another lie.

75 posted on 04/18/2006 10:17:19 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: zeugma
I know that on Linux systems, the situation described is not possible

Sound familiar? It should LOL.

76 posted on 04/18/2006 11:08:01 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: ShadowAce

Did you even read this thread before spouting your normal nonsense? Apparently not, although it probably wouldn't have mattered LOL.


77 posted on 04/18/2006 11:11:31 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: All
Now our least favorite troll is reduced to one-liners.

It has nothing to contribute to the thread. 

Senator Bedfellow worked things out in an amicable way. Too bad our troll is not a civilized human being.

78 posted on 04/18/2006 12:37:23 PM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma

He just doesn't know you as well as I do.


79 posted on 04/18/2006 1:24:34 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

You are a waste of perfectly good air.


80 posted on 04/18/2006 1:32:45 PM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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