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Torvalds' Baby Comes of age
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Posted on 10/01/2005 5:41:18 PM PDT by N3WBI3

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To: Golden Eagle
I call BS. How about some links, like I have above and typically provide.

There are more Solaris servers in the data vaults than Windows servers -- Microsoft runs third place here. I won't hazard an exact breakdown for the data centers in Silicon Valley (my companies own or are in most of them), but no less than half of all servers here are Linux.

As a very cheap example that supports this all by itself, we have Google. A hundred thousand linux servers without a paid-for OS right there. To throw you a bone, Google has a few windows servers for a couple tasks where they are dependent on obscure Windows-only software. Of the few companies I know of which do depend on Windows servers, every last one of them is seriously looking to migrate to Linux.

You obviously have never been anywhere near Silicon Valley. Many venture finance companies will not even fund a company that sells services or products based solely on Windows servers for a number of very good financial reasons. In Silicon Valley, Linux is the default choice for servers unless there is a good reason to go with something else.

61 posted on 10/02/2005 9:48:49 AM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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Still nothing but more of your own words to back up your claims? Not that I'm surprised the leftists out in SV are mostly open source either, but that's a tiny portion of the overall amount of systems in use across the world, no matter how dear they are to your heart. Come up with something concrete for once, or admit you don't have anything.


62 posted on 10/02/2005 10:50:12 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
Come up with something concrete for once, or admit you don't have anything.

It is not even worth my time to argue with a senior member of the Bill Gates Kneepad Brigade(tm).

Linux is commonly used in data centers compared to Windows for a couple indisputable reasons: it scales better, is cheaper to administer when you have thousands of machines, and is more secure. That it is free does not matter, since many companies run monster Oracle instances on these servers which make the cost of operating system licenses utterly negligible. If Microsoft could produce an operating system that ran Oracle half as well as Linux does, that would be a good start.

63 posted on 10/02/2005 12:40:49 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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We use Solaris for our Oracle requirements, which is more robust and mature than Linux, and I'd recommend to anyone. As for your name calling, typical when you Linux hounds realize you have no actual verifiable facts on your side.


64 posted on 10/02/2005 1:30:52 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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We use Solaris for our Oracle requirements, which is more robust and mature than Linux, and I'd recommend to anyone.

It may shock you to realize that I mostly do not use Linux, though I do use UNIX quite a bit. Perhaps ironically, I can get within spitting distance of the top TPC database benchmarks using nothing more than Linux and Oracle, and the top benchmarks do not even run on Solaris. Solaris is a great operating system on Sparc, but Sparc is a dying architecture in case you haven't been paying attention. If you need real scalability, Oracle on Solaris ain't it; I can get those kinds of benchmarks on Linux. Which is not entirely the fault of Solaris -- it scales fine -- but the hardware it runs on is marginal by any metric.

If I need Oracle scalability at any price, I call IBM. For everything else, Linux wins the bang for the buck game and scales very, very well on current hardware. In most cases, Oracle on Linux spanks the bejeezus out of Oracle on Sparc, and I've done enough Oracle on Sparc to Oracle on Linux migrations to know. The bottom line is that Oracle on Linux on AMD Opterons is an insanely good combination with metrics that are very hard to beat for any price.

65 posted on 10/02/2005 11:59:27 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Golden Eagle
I already proved the claim in the article was an outright lie, beyond that...

No you didn't.
And I don't have a dog in this hunt...

66 posted on 10/03/2005 12:10:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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