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Hey, I understand, you guys lost that war through no fault of your own, and it rankles. It's made worse by someone who makes you out to be Nazis, and it's even more hurtful when it's a guy who wore the uniform, and he should be expected to stand up for you. He broke the code.

I don't condone treason, far from it. But Kerry was just another wailing voice in the anti-war wilderness (and there were plenty of them). You wanna enforce the UCMJ and try him for testifying while still on active duty? Fine. Let's strictly enforce all of the UCMJ and retroactively court martial everyone who got the clap while in uniform from 1787 to the present day. If we're going to enforce the rules, let's go all the way.

While we're at it, let's review everyone wrongly convicted under the UCMJ as well. Hey, let's retry Eddie Slovik, too. There's a man that didn't deserve his execution, but he got it anyway, didn't he?

I hate to be flippant about it, but to paraphrase Gandalf the Gray: "There are those that live that deserve death, and those that die that deserve life. Who are you to judge who lives and who dies?"

You're also forgetting that Kerry cannot be prosecuted because he has a Presidential Pardon (signed by Jimmy Carter). Find a way around that one and this quest becomes something more than tilting at windmills, my friend.

I don't disagree with you but the point of the matter is that it would make no difference. Would it (prosecuting Kerry) bring justice? No, because the truly guilty are named Kennedy, Johnson, McNamarra and Westmoreland. Would hanging Kerry from the highest yardarm bring back the 58,000 dead Americans, the 2,000 or so MIA's and millions of dead Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians? No. Would standing Kerry in front of a firing squad erase or alter 30+ years of American history? Certainly not.

I know it would make you feel better, but it would achieve nothing. Piece of advice: my dad died a very disappointed man despite all the blessings in his life, because he never got the "atta boy" the way his father did when returning from the Pacific in 1945. Don't make the same mistake. Stop picking at your psychic scabs from Vietnam and find a way to make what's left of your life worth living.

I can guarentee you it's not like Kerry will be buried in Arlington with full honors.

Chasing John Kerry, it seems to me, is a very unsatisfying pasttime and a collosal waste of time when he's become such a non-entity.

"Hey, I understand, you guys lost that war through no fault of your own"

Thanks to Nixon
the lies of Hanoi Kerry and Hanoi Jane
are being told again.
And our military are being slandered in Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan

Hanoi Kerry and War Crimes in Vietnam

Hanoi Kerry went before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in 1971
to accuse the United States military
of committing massive numbers of war crimes in Vietnam.

Too bad that because Nixon failed to uphold the law,
we are still stuck with Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry.
If Nixon hadn't caved into the minority anti-war crowd
and listened to the Silent Majority
Hanoi Jane AND Hanoi Kerry
would have been prosecuted for their treason in the 70's,
while Nixon was still President.

Keep in mind that Nixon was directly involved in Viet Nam,
as Vice President, going back to at least 1955.

26 Sep 1945 - The first death of an American serviceman in Vietnam occurred.
OSS (Office of Special Operations) Major (Lieutenant Colonel) A. Peter Dewey
was killed in action by the Communist Vietminh near Hanoi.
May 1950 President Harry S Truman authorised $10 million in aid to the French for their war in Viet Nam.
By January 1951, $150 million had been given in aid.
1953-61 Dwight D. Eisenhower 34th US President
1953-61 Richard M. Nixon Vice President
1953 - The US is supporting the French in the amount of $1 billion per year--
33% of all US foreign aid--which is 80% of the total cost to the
. US Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles (under Eisenhower) first voices the 'Domino Theory':
if one country in Southeast Asia falls to the Communists, they will all fall, one by one.

12 Feb 55 - President Eisenhower's administration sends 1st 350 U.S. advisers to South Vietnam
to train the South Vietnamese Army

8 Jun 56 - The first American of record to die in Vietnam
was Air Force Tech Sergeant Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr.
His son, Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, died in Vietnam Sep 7, 1965.
8 Jun 56 Has been formally recognized by the Pentagon as the first American officially to die in that war.

5 Sep 56 - President Eisenhower tells a news conference that the French are
"involved in a hopelessly losing war in Indochina" 1956 The US believed in that Ho Chi Minh would have won any election held in Viet Nam and used their influence over the government of the State of Viet Nam to ensure that the election was not held

From a Must Visit Site
Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, A Vietnam Veteran & Proud Web Site
About Vietnam

The Vietnam war was the longest in our nation's history.
1st American advisor was killed on June 08, 1956,
and the last casualties in connection with the war occurred on May 15, 1975, during the Mayaquez incident. Approximately 2.7 million Americans served in the war zone; 300,000 were wounded and approximately 75,000 permanently disabled. Officially there are still 1,991 Americans unaccounted for from SE Asia.

Vietnam was a savage, in your face war where death could and did strike from anywhere with absolutely no warning. The brave young men and women who fought that war paid an awful price of blood, pain and suffering. As it is said: "ALL GAVE SOME ... SOME GAVE ALL"
The Vietnam war was not lost on the battlefield. No American force in ANY other conflict fought with more determination or sheer courage than the Vietnam Veteran. For the first time in our history America sent it's young men and women into a war run by inept politicians who had no grasp of military strategies and no moral will to win. They were led by "top brass" who were concerned mainly with furthering their own careers, most neither understood the nature of the war nor had a clue about the impossible mission with which they'd tasked their soldiers. And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations because they were more interested in a story than the truth! It can be debated that we should never have fought that war. It can also be argued that the young Americans who fought so courageously, never losing a single major battle, helped in a huge way to WIN THE COLD WAR.