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To: antiRepublicrat
A lot of people had one.

Name some others that IBM contacted, then.

IBM had a previous relationship with Gates, buying his language product, so they asked him who they should use for their new OS. Gates suggested Kildall's CP/M, Kildall wasn't home...

Nah. Not true. Read the Kildall wiki.In that era, NO ONE negotiated with IBM from a position of power. It would be like a small software maker negotiating with Microsoft today from a position of power.

Anyone who has a commodity that you need and can't obtain elsewhere is negotiating from a position of power. I'm surprised that you can't admit this simple truth. But, I suppose, it flies in the face of your argument that Gates & Co. only attained their success through blind luck. I believe that most people reading this thread will agree with me that you're full of crap, though. Clearly, Gates realized that a non-exclusive agreement was an important thing and, clearly, IBM's attorneys were smart enough to understand that the agreement allowed Gates to sell his OS to other parties. You can argue that, but it's just not credible.

Nope, faster on the SAME hardware. You could boot directly into OS 9 or use OS 9 under OS X on the same machine. Using it under OS X was faster.

Let's see the data.

I'll start with one: uptime. As for OS X, just use it. It's brain-dead easy to administer the server and network. Nobody does usability like Apple.

Let's see the data.

Or for the military, which has quite a few, including in a supercomputer cluster. And what's this "platic furniture" thing about?

So what. The military spends $800 on ashtrays. They're good at blowing things up, but these guys aren't known for their intelligence.
536 posted on 08/31/2005 10:45:53 AM PDT by Bush2000 (Linux -- You Get What You Pay For ... (tm)
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To: Bush2000
Name some others that IBM contacted, then.

They contacted only those two. Bill said he could get them an OS, and he did. IBM could have just as easily bought QDOS themselves if they'd been bothered to look around, but they didn't think the OS was important.

Anyone who has a commodity that you need and can't obtain elsewhere is negotiating from a position of power. I'm surprised that you can't admit this simple truth.

The commodity was obtainable from other sources, so that point is moot.

Let's see the data.

I had a link with some informal benchmarks, but I can't find it now. As you may know, OS 9's virtual memory management was absolutely horrible. Classic mode (OS 9 under OS X) disables OS 9's virtual memory management and makes OS 9 see essentially unlimited physical memory, which unknown to OS 9 will be a combination of physical memory and OS X's highly efficient virtual memory system. Thus, any applications in situations that would normally cause OS 9 to use virutal memory will have higher performance under Classic than under straight OS 9.

OS X usability has to be experienced.

They're good at blowing things up, but these guys aren't known for their intelligence.

Shall I give your address to my Special Forces friends, especially the one who also happens to be an excellent DBA?

538 posted on 08/31/2005 12:08:24 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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