Posted on 08/14/2005 10:04:04 AM PDT by grey_whiskers
Many articles have been written about the phenomenon of “outsourcing”—the practice of sending work needed within a company to be performed outside of the company. More recently, the word has become synonymous with “offshoring”—the practice of sending the work to be done by lower-paid workers overseas, often in third-world or emerging countries such as Mexico, China, and India.
These phenomena have been going on for some time—one of the first industries to be moved outside of the United States has been textiles. Indeed, while garment manufacturing was first sent to low-cost locales, there was some outcry over the growth of sweatshops—as Kathie Lee Gifford found out. Those who supported the process were quick to point out the dual benefit, of cheaper costs (passed on as lower prices to the consumer) together with greater opportunity for the impoverished in third-world countries. Although, to be honest, I haven't seen the price of $150 Nike sneakers dropping anytime recently.
Following the widespread offshoring of garment manufacturing, the trend continued. The (thankfully!) former head of Lucent and then of Hewlett-Packard, Carly Fiorina, was quoted as stating that no American had a right to a job just because they were American. And companies have put their money where their mouth is, as well. For example, 54% Dell computer’s employees are offshore. One widely-quoted statistic from consultancy McKinsey & Co. states that 3.3 million US jobs will be lost to offshoring by 2015. (*)
So clearly, there has been a great rush to send all kinds of work overseas. But WHY? The usual answer is “To be cost competitive. We could not survive as a company if we continued to pay exorbitant American salaries.” Is this really true? Consider Microsoft. One of its managers, Brian Valentine, was quoted in a trade magazine as saying “Think India! Two for the price of one!” But before its big dividend payout, Microsoft was sitting on some $50 billion (with a “B”, folks)--in Cash. And essentially no debt. Are you telling me Microsoft has to pinch pennies on salaries, because they can’t afford to compete otherwise? Let’s do the math. MBA types like to talk about comparing expected return on investment to the “risk-free” rate of return, US Treasuries. If Microsoft had just invested that money into US Treasuries, even when interest rates bottomed out at about 2%, they would have had $1 billion /year, CASH, with which to pay American programmers. And this would have been without touching the principal and without affecting cash flow from continuing operations.
I think that in fact, the non-answers above, while not true, still point to the truth: “Follow the Money”. The argument seems to go like this: if you, as a worker, want to make $80,000 a year or more, you are greedy. We should outsource your position to India to save money, so we can afford to pay our executives tens of millions a year. (Does anyone recall the retirement packages of Dick Grasso, Carly Fiorina, or Jack “Neutron” Welch?) And this is because executives are “indispensable”. Right. About as indispensable as a vampire bat is to a hemophiliac.
But on the other hand, there is one more way you can follow the money. Companies (and their stock) are looking towards future earnings. Remember, the US consumer isn’t getting any younger. And as workers get older, it costs more to retain them—from salaries, to health care costs, to risks of age-discrimination lawsuits. So companies want younger, cheaper workers. And what happens when the US workforce starts retiring en masse and can no longer afford the goods produced by US companies? Remember the two biggest destinations for outsourcing: China and India. What do these companies have in common? Cheap labor, and a large pool of relatively young buyers for American products. What else do they have in common? They are both primarily third world countries; on the whole, they cannot afford American products. So what’s an enterprising CEO to do? The answer is obvious: start a stampede of companies to relocate to China and India. This will do two things. First, it will directly lower all sorts of costs (no Social Security tax, no EPA, fewer lawyers…). Second, it will send all kinds of money overseas, to stimulate the economy of other countries, so that they can start buying goods when the US consumption tapers off.
(*)McKinsey’s motives in this, however, may not be as pure as the wind-driven snow, or even the silt-ridden Ganges. According to an article from The Times of India, McKinsey is being paid to generate jobs in India: “The Karnataka government would like to see more jobs created in these areas and has mandated consultancy firm McKinsey to formulate a strategy to generate one million jobs by 2008.” QED.
Our county government outsources. When we get our tax bill in the mail we sent it to Charlotte, a few counties over.
The county says they save money by outsourcing. If they can do it why not the rest of us?
Note to self: read later.
And Kerry denies he was opposed to outsourcing. http://sify.com/news/othernews/fullstory.php?id=14119701
My neighbor, who supplies scaffolding to nuclear power plants, decided to contract with a company in China to build his parts. They wined and dine him. Supplied him with prostitutes and he paid his monies to the local governors.
He goes there about every two months to "see" that his parts are made properly. He save about 15 to 20 percent on parts. He felt he had to do this to stay in business.
The kicker is that he gets about 75% to 80% of the contracts here in the U.S. He has no real competition.
It's greed. Plain and simple.
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Bttt
Free trade bump!
And it's killin us...
A great one liner! Not as funny as, "Take my wife.. Please!" But not bad.
It's on the par with the Charlie Brown cartoon with Lucy holding that football for Charlie.
Sure, India and China are going to hold that domestic market spot for American companies.
As Lucy says, "Ha! Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!"
Bump - another great post.
(*)McKinsey’s motives in this, however, may not be as pure as the wind-driven snow, or even the silt-ridden Ganges. According to an article from The Times of India, McKinsey is being paid to generate jobs in India:
You were a tad ahead of your time with this piece... even down to the self-serving early corruption... Nice.
http://www.gogov.com/kerryoutsourcing1.htm
from link:
Kerry Led Outsourcing Trade Mission to China.
Ties to Boston Company Boasting Over 70 Outsourcing Projects
by Russell Betts - GoGov.com (August 15, 2004)
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John Kerry, who has made opposition to corporate outsourcing of U.S. jobs to places like China a major part of his presidential campaign, appears to have had major involvement with a Boston, Massachusetts company specializing in outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing and jobs.
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During the late 1990’s, Kerry led at least one of the company’s outsourcing trade missions to China, appearing for photos at a banquet in Beijing with representatives of Boston Capital & Technology and unidentified Chinese trade representatives. The exact date of the trip is not given on the company website but appears to have taken place between 1996 and 1998.
Some of the projects undertaken by Boston Capital & Technology include setting up tool & die manufacturing in China, high technology transfers to Chinese telecommunication companies and transfer of highly specialized commercial software utilized in computer aided manufacturing. The company also set up manufacturing in China for an infant gifts company with 12,000 U.S. retail outlets and manufacturing for a company supplying the US home healthcare market.
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John Kerry attending BCT banquet in Beijing, China.
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It is not clear how many jobs previously held by U.S. citizens have been transferred to China through Boston Capital & Technology outsourcing projects or how many, if any Kerry’s lead involvement at the Beijing meeting has had. In one event that could have long ranging effects in the battle with China over U.S. jobs, Boston Capital & Technology did hold a US/China Symposium at Tsinghua University, a university referred to as “The “M.I.T. of China”.
Kill the H-1B visa. KILL IT!!!!!!!
This is why we need a really high protective import tariff. It needs to be across the board, uniform and not targeted against specific countries. This the only way to protect American workers and wages. Or the alternative is to become the third world.
Free Traitor™ bump.
Americans will not have your misguided so called protective tariffs.
Americans make stuff and go all over the world to sell their products. They have done so since the beginning of American time.
If tariffs on the scale you desire were wanted, we would have them. Americans don’t want them and we don’t have them.
The post mentions the textile industry. The American textile business was stolen from the UK. It came to Massachuttes where cheap power and labor proved so competitive the Brit industry withered. Then, as the Yankee textile workers demanded excessive wages, the business moved to the Carolinas where there was an abundant supply of willing workers.
Alas, that was not to last as post WW II economies took the textile manufacturing business because they were more competitive. Whole plants were disassembled and moved to Bangladesh and Peru. Ironically, Bangladeshi workers were put out of work by the movement from Columbia NC of a state of the art Japanese manufactured computer controlled plant that took in cotton bales at one end and spit out T shirt yarn at a mind boggling rate at the other end. There were SC companies established solely to broker the sales ow whole textile plants to foreign buyers.
The president is to be applauded for his nationalism. However, he will not bring jobs home. His efforts will create new jobs making new stuff. He will not bring home the textile jobs to the Carolinas. He will not bring home the jobs to the closed rayon plants, the polyester yarn plants.
We live in the world where we actively engage in competative trade. We like the competition and shun the tariffs that hamper out efforts to trade freely whereever we can sell the stuff we make.
Manufacturing in America is alive and well We are in fact selling our stuff in every nook and cranny our salesmen can travel
The anti trade isolationist mindset will never prevail in an America of traders.
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