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To: Dashing Dasher
Plus - Google is swinging so far left these days - I rather not use them at all.

So let me get this straight... youre using something by the mozilla foundation yet you think the personal feelings of those at google should dissuade you?

Just do what I do, ignore personal politics of developers, and people involved with software..

19 posted on 07/06/2005 11:37:18 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (I musta taken a wrong turn at 198.182.159.17)
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To: N3WBI3

My point on Google -

Check their news sources... they actually have Al Jazeera as a NEWS SOURCE. As well as other opinion pieces - which to me aren't news - they are opinion.


22 posted on 07/06/2005 11:39:55 AM PDT by Dashing Dasher (I can resist everything except temptation. --Oscar Wilde.)
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To: N3WBI3; Dashing Dasher
So let me get this straight... youre using something by the mozilla foundation yet you think the personal feelings of those at google should dissuade you?

I get your point, but one of the complaints against Google is that their bias shows up in how their "hits" are ranked and displayed.

23 posted on 07/06/2005 11:42:55 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: N3WBI3; Dashing Dasher
So let me get this straight... youre using something by the mozilla foundation yet you think the personal feelings of those at google should dissuade you?

Just do what I do, ignore personal politics of developers, and people involved with software..

I can't speak for DD, but it's not the political inclinations of individual coders I have a problem with; it's the overt left-wing politically-based actions of Google as an institution that I find overbearing.

To my knowledge, the worst example of political bias I've ever seen from the Mozilla/Firefox crowd (heck, the only example) is that the "Firefox Crew Links" (included in the default Bookmarks folder when you first install Firefox, and easily removed in seconds) points to a couple of really liberal sites but no conservative ones. Google, on the other hand, has a long track record of forcing left-wing results onto its users while suppressing even mildly conservative ones.

And unlike with Firefox, where you can just remove the bookmarks you don't like, you can't do anything to reverse Google's actions. If you don't like that they refuse to accept Little Green Footballs as a "legitimate news source" while allowing dozens of hardcore socialist groups and anti-Semitic blogs onto the front page of Google News, there's nothing you can do about it. If you don't like that they'll happily run ads attacking Tom DeLay but refuse identically worded ads attacking Hillary Clinton on the basis that they're "too political", there's nothing you can do about it. You can't even complain, because they respond to all emails with form letters and don't take phone calls. And you can't really take your business elsewhere, because technologically speaking, Google is so far ahead of its competitors in most areas that you'll only be hurting yourself if you stop using them completely. (The few "competing" search engines that come anywhere clse to Google's breadth and functionality all use Google's databases as a starting point.)

So in the end, the only option we have is to keep openly complaining about Google's biases and actions, in the hopes that somewhere, someday, maybe they'll be shamed into cleaning up their act.

32 posted on 07/06/2005 2:25:52 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (John Bolton for White House Press Secretary!)
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To: N3WBI3

That's what I do. 90% of major companies seem to be liberal (coke, pepsi, disney, etc.) So I just forget about it and go with my preference unless there is a good, unbiased option as well.


37 posted on 07/06/2005 2:37:08 PM PDT by Asphalt (Join the NFL ping list ...everything NFL... FReepmail Asphalt to get on|FReeper Since 10/10/04)
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