Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin
My head is still spinning over what they did to Terri. Looks like a bunch of FReeper types saved this older gentlelady. Thank Goodness!
Thanks---went and read some of what is available about Mae on her website! AMAZING!!! Posted some of it at post # 2400
-Ron Panzer, Hospice Patients Alliance
http://www.hospicepatients.org/
The contentions in this petition were not litigated. Instead, a tactical decision was made to reach an agreement, wehre the object of the agreement was to have Mae removed from hospice. The tactic for reaching that object was to enage medical doctors to determine the best medical course of action for Mae. The doctors decided the best course was to remove Mae from hospice and place her in a Alabama hospital.
The issue of guardianship is still unsettled, although emergency/temporary guardianship rests with Gaddy.
It is interesting that the emergency guardianship gaddy applied for was given the very morning she learned that ken and his uncler were at the hospice waiting to meet with her attorney, who was late to meet them, because he was in court with gaddy getting the emergency guardian stay.
Interesting, too, that she retains it, given the doctors agreement that this woman had a right to medical treatment gaddy had denied her.
Also interesting that gaddy will not allow them to VISIT with Mae even tho such family showing care might help Mae get better faster. And even tho Mae's sister, is at the hospital with a condition that mirrors Mae's and is only one floor below her...but NOT ALLOWED to visit her.
Sick stuff.
Gaddy must not have much love for her grandmother...especially now that we learn Mae had daily help from an assistant who cared for her needs, including driving her to hair appointments, shopping, etc.
Gaddy told Ken that he could begin to see Mae, along with Mae's sister and brother if he, Ken, would STOP going public with what was happening...and refuse all interviews, etc.
Should he agree...he can see Mae.
Should he refuse...tough tacos.
He knows if he agrees to this...the spotlight will be off the case, and Mae will float into the oblivion felos and michael schiavo so hoped that trapping terri in a hospice would provide.
There are now guards outside Mae's room to make sure the people who want her to get well, whose actions actually GOT HER OUT OF THE DEATH HOUSE AND INTO A HOSPICE, cannot visit their sister and aunt.
When did we ever get to this point?
We've been at "this point" for a decade or more. Secular humanism and "the love of money," nothing new under the sun.
I'd have to ponder how to handle Gaddy's offer. If I trusted the doctors, and if Mae had a fair prognosis, I think I'd turn Gaddy down. The fact that she doesn't like the public view means that the public view is effectively working against her interests.
Your welcome. Suggest you review the previous posts here as it has been discussed at great length by some fantastic minds who are standing firm in the fight to help protect this woman's life and keep her alive until the Lord calls her home. Most are of the mind to do whatever is necessary and bring important issues into the "light" from the depth of darkness and wicked people.
You can also do a Google or Mamma.com search for:
"Mae Magouirk"Georgia. Last time I checked it had about 445 hits!
I'm wondering if any attempt has been made to talk with Mae's caretaker; the woman who has been driving her to appointments, etc.
Maybe if Ken agreed that "HE" would stop personally talking to the media, etc. He could give the important info to say a "third party", i.e, the caretaker (as someone close to the family) and that person could see that vital information was released at the appropriate time. That way the family could see Mae,evaluate her care,present condition and maybe even get her input as to what she wants done. Just a thought.
Also concerned about the status of that Temporary Guardianship. I saw a second petition (4-1-05)in the WND copy that was recently posted. On the same day that the judge granted the initial temporary guardianship with ability to make medical decisions...it was suppose to be valid for 45 days, or until petition for regular/permanent guardianship is heard; whichever occurs first. He then grants PERMANENT Guardianship to GADDY!...the very same day.
Additional comment:
Just checked this link from a poster on the Minuteman boards and I think it worth taking a peek at:
http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7351686&type=ME
Earlier I said there were about 450 hits on a search for Mae's name.....well, now there are over 725! Her plight is out there inspite of GADDY's desire for it to go away. Doesn't look like she'll get her wish.
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And I said to myself, self look "what could have been"...so sorry Terri. You should have been in Buenos Aires then you'd still be smiling, laughing, loving and being loved. Ole Mikie wouldn't have received his death wish for you!
http://hyscience.typepad.com/hyscience/2005/04/how_terris_case.html
Tuesday, April 12, 2005
How "Terri's case" was Handled in Argentina
They don't pull the plug! BRAVO for integrity!!!
Jaw-dropping new article on WorldNetDaily by Sarah Foster:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43763
That may offend you intellectually. That's okay. Such blind adherence and belief in 'process will win the day' is intellectually offensive to me. People, with all of their agendas, motivations, and machinations, run that process. That means Ken, Beth, the Judge, You and Me.
If you feel that a woman's life is not worth the effort, and that effort only involving emails and phone calls, then there are fundamental differences in our priorities that frankly preclude me from spending anymore time with you on this issue. Time was of the essence, period. That was evidenced by the extensive re hydration therapy Mae needed and the fact that the Doctors did not move in a timely manner. I perfectly understand Kenneths panic that the docs were taking too long. And before the ASAP issue rears its head, it would be the reasonable expectation that considering what was hanging in the balance the doctors would get a move on. Im glad I took the time to read your posts. It was worth it to get the clarity on your position.
"The only party that asserted dementia was, IIRC, Beth Gaddy."
The court appointed Dr. Jones to evaluate. He opined the proposed ward was incapcitated by reason of mental incapacity.
Ken and sister filed papers agreeing the ward was in need of a guardian.
This is true. But Dr. Jones did not assert that Mae had dementia.
Ken and sister filed papers agreeing the ward was in need of a guardian.
Given that Mae was unable to speak for herself, guardianship is not inappropriate. What we don't have is a medical prognosis regarding Mea's mental faculties. A diagnosis of dementia would result in appointing a permanent guardian. The court did not appoint a permanent guardian, ergo, no medical diagnosis of dementia.
At this time, there is no clear evidence that a qualified medical professional has asserted that Mae has dementia.
BTW, RGSpinach and I discussed this yesterday. Until there is new evidence on the point, the thread will benefit from moving on.
"and he made this decision based ONLY on the facts that he had at the time- and all these facts were one-sided."
In the petition filed by the brothers and sister...
Physical illness or disability.
Lacks sufficient understanding or CAPACITY to make significant responsible decisions concerning his/her person or is incapable of communicating such decisions...
The duration of incapacity will be: "permanent."
(If her only problem is her aorta and it's proposed that it can be fixed, how can the incapacity be permanent?)
This is not from Gaddy.
Further, the judge noted an "alledged gravely ill and incapacited adult" and appointed an atty and dr. to make an evaluation.
The brother /sister filed their objections to Gaddy being made guardian and from the record, had no argument with the incapacitation regarless of how it's worded or the cause.
Hardly one sided. IMO
"Gaddy's guardianship letter expires 45 days after April 1, or when a petition for regular guardianship is heard, whichever comes sooner."
Mae granted her POA on 2/11/05. Is there a reason given for this or anyone know why?
I think Stout is the doctor that certified Mae as terminal, or whatever medical opinion is necessary to support hospice admission. Threfore, he would have been brought in by "Gaddy's side."
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