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It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)
Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin

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To: bvw
"When Marge fell ill the nursing home followed the order written on the document and denied her food and water for two weeks. But then something unexpected happened: Marge asked to be fed. A court battle ensued. The court gave permit to the nursing home to slaughter Marge by starvation and dehydration. The judge said that Marge was no longer legally competent to ask for food. The slaughter was permitted: the judge ruled that giving Marge the food she asked for would constitute "extraordinary means" of keeping her alive, and this would violate the contract Marge, herself, had written up prior."

I guess changing your mind about whether you want to live or die is AGAINST THE LAW, now.

I guess when you are starved to death it is not all roses like felos the vampire promises us it is...I guess ya DO GET HUNGRY, not to mention THRISTY!

This grandchild is another perverted monster.

In America...we FEED THE HUNGRY! Or, we used to.

1,281 posted on 04/08/2005 8:09:35 PM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: eeevil conservative; nicmarlo

See this URL Letter from NHPCO re Conference on Aging for this letter, dated March 10th.

The White House Conference on Aging occurs once a decade to make aging policy
recommendations to the President and Congress, and to assist the public and private sectors in
promoting dignity, health, independence and economic security of current and future generations of
older persons.
The theme for the 2005 White House Conference on Aging, October 23-26, 2005 in Washington,
D.C. is “The Booming Dynamics of Aging: From Awareness to Action,” which reflects the unique
mandate of the 2005 WHCoA to focus on the aging of today and tomorrow. This group includes the
78 million baby boomers (born between 1946 and 1964), who will begin to turn 60 in 2006. The
theme highlights the changing face of aging in the United States encouraging Americans of all ages
to participate in developing plans for aging generations now and in the future.
Both NHPCO’s upcoming Policy Forum and the free Caring Connections pre-conference seminar at
the Clinical Team Conference are official WHCoA events and as such, the findings will be shared
with a much broader audience and have a greater impact on future policy considerations for our
aging population.
Beyond official events, 1200 individuals will serve as delegates to the 2005 Conference. Delegates
to the Conference will have the responsibility for presenting recommendations to the President and
Congress to help guide aging policies for the next decade and beyond. The delegates will represent:
• Governors of all 50 states, the U.S. Territories, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico and the
District of Columbia (2 per Governor plus another 100 “at large” apportioned by state size)
• National Congress of American Indians
• Members of the 109th Congress (1 per Senator and 1 per Representative)
• National aging and other allied organizations, academic institutions, business and industry, nonprofit
and veterans’ organizations and other entities with a stake in the aging of America.
Applications for these slots will be sent out later this year.

A conference just ended in Germany on palliative care had as its theme "Beyond the Border" See for yourselves: http://www.eapcnet.org/Aachen2005/in/index.html

There are all kinds of things going on. Look up the articles just published in the NEJM. Also see the NIH goings on last December. http://consensus.nih.gov/ta/024/endoflifeintro.html#sponsors The last paragraph is a winner:

"Experience in Conducting Research Among People Toward the End of Life

Palliative care is a difficult field for research as much of this state-of-the-science conference will demonstrate. There are design, methodological, and ethical difficulties of conducting research, problems in recruiting and sustaining a research community, and a shortage of experienced academics in the field. This occurs at a time when there are greater than ever opportunities for international communication and coordination with technologies that sometimes make it easier to link between London and Washington than between Washington and Texas. For this reason, multicenter and international research should be considered and the NIH could play a pivotal role in encouraging such collaboration."


Hospice stats and research: http://www.nhpco.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3274&openpage=3274

2005 is the year for activism.


1,282 posted on 04/08/2005 8:10:38 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: yellowdoghunter
...Fr is pro-life...

And is pro-rights...or "was"

1,283 posted on 04/08/2005 8:12:05 PM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: combat_boots

The letter is posted at http://www.nhho.org/ under "Letter from the NHPCO......." toward the bottom. It is a .pdf file. You can't find it on the nhpco site yet.


1,284 posted on 04/08/2005 8:12:32 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: lil'bit

LOL!!

Thank YOU!!

Kenneth emailred me the story-- but I didn't have a link!!

THANKS!!

YOU ARE AWESOME!


1,285 posted on 04/08/2005 8:12:53 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: djreece; ExPatInFrance; eeevil conservative; nicmarlo; maine-iac7; schmelvin; Netizen; Sun; ...
Save Mae Magouirk from Forced Euthanasia Ping!!!

If you’d like to be added or deleted from this Ping List please freepmail me.

It's me again. :-) In Post 1264 lil'bit has posted the article from Joel Martin in the LaGrange paper.

Link to the original in the LaGrange paper is http://www.lagrangenews.com/new.php?StoryType=full

1,286 posted on 04/08/2005 8:14:53 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: djreece
Brian Sussman on KSFO (San Francisco) did a really good job covering Mae's plight and is going to put contact info on the website (I'm not sure whether that will be www.ksfo.com or www.briansussman.com) for listeners to help the family.

Great job there DJ!

1,287 posted on 04/08/2005 8:16:03 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: Gondring

"why would she need to do that?".....quite possible because grandma has too much to ask the state Medicaid to pay for grandma and she sees her inheritance going down the drai.

Possibly not, but I have actually seen it happen. If the granddaughter has had to care for grandma for 10 years, she should already have had grandma sign over property to her. The granddaughter does deserve something for her 10 years care.

I have seen a local case here where some of the grandchildren
promised grandma she would never have to go to the nursing home if she would sign over her considerale property to them. Grandma did, to the exclusion of out of state child and grandchildren. The ink was not dry before they carted her off to the nursing home.
It was pitiful because she had mind enough to know what had happened.

vaudine


1,288 posted on 04/08/2005 8:21:23 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Sun

It is no coincidence that the left seems to value animals more than people. When I call the death merchants nazis, I'm not invoking Godwins Law, I'm stating a FACT that I believe in my heart to be true. They Are Little nazis, and they will turn the lights off in Amerika if they are allowed.


1,289 posted on 04/08/2005 8:22:48 PM PDT by johnb838 (Santo Subito!)
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To: combat_boots

Thanks for your post. Interesting....all the upper echelon of society will be in attendance, at least by proxy.


1,290 posted on 04/08/2005 8:23:38 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: bvw

The moral of the storty: DO NOT SIGN A LIVING WILL cuz ya just might change your mind when hungry.


1,291 posted on 04/08/2005 8:23:55 PM PDT by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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To: vaudine

They also very much believe that health care should be rationed. If the laws do not allow it, they will find ways around the laws. They should be the ones to practice what they preach.


1,292 posted on 04/08/2005 8:24:27 PM PDT by johnb838 (Santo Subito!)
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To: eeevil conservative

http://www.lagrangenews.com/


1,293 posted on 04/08/2005 8:25:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Sun

Apparently we should make our living wills out stating that we want every and all available heroic and non-heroic means to prolong our lives. Yes, I want to live like that. If only to say "Screw You" to the deathrats.


1,294 posted on 04/08/2005 8:26:15 PM PDT by johnb838 (Santo Subito!)
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To: All

Please forgive me if you have addressed me and I have not responded!

I am just trying to do a lot at once....

You all have worked so hard and done so much!

Please forgive me too for when I was a REAL JERK earlier!

I have no excuse!

NONE!

Thank you!

I just talked to Kenneth--

I received word that Rita wanted his info to talk to him-- got her the info- but then she backed off!

PLEASE FLOOD RITA COSBY!!!

PLEASE!!!


1,295 posted on 04/08/2005 8:26:21 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: johnb838; vaudine; combat_boots

Please see President's Bioethics Commission Meeting Transcript of June 24, 2004, wherein a Dr. Janet D. Rowley, M.D., D.Sc., from The University of Chicago, states, at this url,

http://www.bioethics.gov/transcripts/june04/june24full.html

"I'm very concerned that the major ethical issue that
we face in this country is that every dollar that is
spent on very old individuals is a dollar that could
be spent on young children who really are going to
benefit. And in a society of finite resources I think
it is unethical for older individuals to steal
resources from their children. And I think that that's
not the way the question is put, but in fact that is
in its bluntest terms of the way society should begin
to consider this. So you raise the question of
rationing. And I know that other countries do do this,
but I would be curious as to your thought, and your
thoughts also, Dr. Cole, on these issues?"

Please note, additionally, that individuals such as
Charles Krauthammer, M.D., the Syndicated Columnist
[and a FOX News contributer], is also currently on the
President's bioethics panel.


1,296 posted on 04/08/2005 8:28:51 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: eeevil conservative

rita.cosby@foxnews.com
bill.oreilly@foxnews.com
sean.hannity@foxnews.com
linda.vester@foxnews.com


1,297 posted on 04/08/2005 8:32:55 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: yellowdoghunter

[Don't you love the line, "Well, since I wouldn't want to live that way, how could anyone else?]

Ask them this, "If you do not want to live in the state she's in, can we assume that you also want to DIE THE WAY SHE DIED?"

How many of the "let her die" crowd has signed a directive to make sure that they dehydrate to death? A show of hands? I'm waiting...


1,298 posted on 04/08/2005 8:34:29 PM PDT by turnrightnow (bink's mom)
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To: nicmarlo

Dammit, if someone is fortunate enough, and dogged enough, and willing to go through the pain and difficulty required to become old, they deserve better than to have it stolen by some bastard who undoubtedly thinks he has it fixed so he can beat the judgement when the time comes.

I don't know what the solution to medical costs is but it isn't this. Why not look at medicare and medicaid fraud? And then there is the everpresent illegal alien problem. We're killing our parents and grandparents for the sake of a frickin' litter of illegals.


1,299 posted on 04/08/2005 8:37:31 PM PDT by johnb838 (Santo Subito!)
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To: johnb838

Even nice pro-life guys, like Hannity, recommend signing a living will, but they don't understand the ramifications YET.

I have read that when you go to the lawyers or talk to hospice, etc., they try to trick you into signing anything that will kill you, because you don't "want to live like that." What if you change your mind?

Christopher Reeves wanted to live, and he WAS on machines.

Father Pavone doesn't think it's such a good idea to sign a "living" will, because he realizes what's going on.

There is a good will that the National RTL Committee puts out, which can be downloaded, and if I do sign a living will, that's the only one I would sign.


1,300 posted on 04/08/2005 8:39:33 PM PDT by Sun (Visit www.theEmpireJournal.com * Pray for Terri. Pray to end abortion.)
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