Posted on 03/12/2005 1:20:26 PM PST by kanawa
Never been too fond of dogfighting even though I have never been to one, I've heard enough about them.
I have enjoyed bull and cockfighting.....not against each other.
I am not in favor of killing humans for being cruel to animals though. I guess I'm hard.
The article speaks of events in the 60's.
I haven't seen anyone denying that this fellow, decades ago, was involved in dog-fighting.
The question is whether he is still involved.
FWIW
I received this and have permission to cross post.....
Floyd has NOT been involved in sporting dogs for ALOT of years!!! He, his wife and his son look after the dogs along with various "yard boys". It should VERY obvious to anyone with eyes that these dogs were not on 3 ft chains and I thank Leisa for correcting it to the 12 ft rigs they are really on.Floyd is a prominent name in the breed...has been for 50 yrs! His bloodlines go back and back and back as some of the top sporting dogs in the breed. His reputation was built on the history of the APBT and the history was helped along by Floyd. There's not many of the oldtimers left alive, let alone still producing some of the best now show dogs the ADBA has to offer!! The slightly experienced eye can pick out a Boudreaux dog at a show.
Those that know Floyd, respect him and his family for the work that he puts into the overall care of his dogs. From speaking to people and close friends of his that have spent days there, they know it's clean, free of parasites (which is tough with mulitples and southern climate) and the dogs are healthy. Floyd himself has donated signed pictures of himself with various dogs to my club to help us raise money...in fact, Dave was just getting ready to get us some more!
There is so much more to this story that is just not worth taking up list space with. There's about 5 yrs of history behind this assault on Floyd and none of it has to do directly with Floyd!
Trust me this "person" was involved in dog fighting. It is a big thing with a lot of the cajuns. I live a few minutes from one of the largest cock fighting arenas. I don't understand the mindset of people who enjoy this "sport".
They do not adopt out aggressive breeds here.
Trust is nice, facts are better.
What's the basis for your assertion?
Maybe this guy is guilty as sin.
But I'd like to see some hard facts.
Um, living in this area for all of my life. The people know who's involved it's not a big secret. The cock fighters have their roosters out in plain sight. People talk about it all the time. Same with the dog fights. The die hards think it's their right to continue on with the tradition as part of the Cajun culture. It's been discussed at city councils off and on for years and years. This is one tradition I hope goes away. Let them get their jollies some other way.
I do agree its a terrible shame that all the dogs were simply authanized without the fellow even having a chance to clear himself.
These two "people" deserve to be executed. Those poor dogs. What an abomination.
Those guys are somethin' else. 'proven', '6x winner' and so on. I've browsed around the root site that led to that forum, if you dig deep enough, you can find dog fighting rules, and first aid instruction for bleeding and injured dogs. I'm quite certain they have a private part of that forum where they really talk.
Very sophisticated, and all over the world. These dogs aren't just the back alley produce of gang members... they are being actively bred and fought by people who take it very seriously.
I am not naive enough to think they can be eliminated. It's just wishful thinking.
Did you happen to follow the link to the Chicago Tribune story..........
Afghans snarl in and out of dogfight ring
It seems like a world-wide phenomenon.
I've got to wonder if it's been going on since way back when dogs were first domesticated.
I was strangely fascinated too, by browsing around that forum. I also spent a long time there. I didn't end up with mixed feelings, I think they're awful, just more sophisticated than I might have thought. They may 'love' their dogs, but only for how well they fight. They speak pretty casually about culling or otherwise sacrificing others.
A thousand dittos.
Yes he was into dog fighting many years ago. I bet you never been to his house before. I been there hundreds of times and I can tell you that all his dogs are well keep up. Like he told me many of times he made his name out for himself many years ago. Are did you ever see his house this man didn't make any money with his dogs. He just love his dogs just like you and me.
FRiend, you have no argument with me.
I never heard of the fellow before this arrest, but I have learned some about him since.
Much of what I've heard is similar to what you have said.
I've given him the benefit of the doubt because I know how the media and politicians can twist things.
It is good to hear from someone with first hand experience with the man.
Do you have any information about why this happened and the current status of the case?
I've talked to Ann in the past about the difference between APBTs and AmStaffs.
She said that the AmStaff people have tried to distance themselves from the fighting history,
while the APBT people tho' not condoning dog-fight accept the history of the breed and don't try to hide from it.
As well they like their dogs a little 'hotter'. Meaning, I guess, more feisty and tenacious?
Sort of what the site[game~dog.com] has as a header on it's pages...
"Pit Bull Community is dedicated to the preservation of the pit bull in its original form as a game-bred dog and in its modern incarnations as a loving companion pet and top competitor in weight pull competitions and conformation shows. We are opposed to all forms of animal cruelty, and do not promote any illegal activities, but we celebrate the history of the pit bull and value its qualities of courage, strength and tenacity as the essence of the breed. We are therefore against all forms of breed-specific legislation, and work to protect the constitutional rights of pit bull owners."
This is her response....
"game-dogs.com has been a huge site on the net for alot of years. Actually I believe that my club was even listed on their site and they always promo'd our show along with other ADBA shows. It's also been ages since I've been there!
I can't speak for the site creator/owner on what their personal views are but I know for me, that "working" means people who actually get out there do something good with their dogs (ie pulling and showing).
We do tend to prefer dogs that are a little "hotter" and yes, that's feisty.....we have no adversion to animal aggression. If you can't handle the true nature of breed, we suggest another breed that is little less intense.
But like all individual dogs, it varies from dog to dog on how much. As you've likely seen, Ann and I took pics of my Patch with her Frankie...they were side by side with no reaction. I have dogs I could not have done that with.
Game-dogs.com is a little more historical in some sense just like the APBT FAQ on the web. It tells the truth of the breed without fluffing it off.
Hope that helps clarify at least some of it to you."
One of the more telling things on that site was the general reaction to the Staffies at the Westminster show. If you go read bird-dog forums there may be some comments about conformation dogs vs. field dogs, but general admiration for how gorgeous the show dogs are. But the pitbull people were flat-out making fun of the show Staffies and gloating about how their game dogs could tear the show Staffies apart.
I don't get it. I guess that's why I have a greyhound and a mini poodle and not a pit bull. I'm a wimp.
how can you say what you've said?? how much do you know about floyd boudreaux??? Floyd hasn't matched a dog in over 30 years. if you read the report correctly the aspca said "these were the most healthy dogs we've had to take, and some took 2 to 3 people to move" if that doesn't hit you i don't what does. this guy is the reason some your dogs are here. alot of lines go back to this guy yard.
i know alot of you don't agree with dogfighting, but because these dogs are dog agreeseive is a reason they're not human aggresive.
if you look at animal planet and animal control the most pitbull attacks from the one who don'twant their dogs being dog aggresive. these dogs are aggresive period and if not against animals then what? Humans!!! you've never heard of Floyds dog getting looseand biting baby to death.
about the 3ft chain if you look at the picthat looks like they have WAY more than 3ft of chain. these dogs were healthy. youcan't hold him responsible for what the people do with the dogs. he was innitailly under investigation for international sales of his dogs, becausehe sold alot overseas! not for dog-fighting. ifthey had evidence of dog-fighting. why destroy the evidence. they said theirselves that if they didn't putthe dogs down they have stay in kennels for a year "being that they are evidence" to the case. they even put the puppies down.
those dogs were happy to see those people and they were led off to be destroyed. and you say "death to floyd"
floyd was a good guy he was a community person,some of the nighbors even said "floyd if like a father to me, if i need anything i could count on him for it, and i never heard of anything about dogfighting about him" "i see him judging show dogs". you all see it as they show it. that'swhy i encourage people to research about this breed before you get in to it, because you have people who sell drugs to feed their dogs, then go andbreed them and seelthem to any and everybody then most they likely end up in shelters waiting for someone to save them. this guy work hard and put millions of dollars into his yard. so i know it wasn't about money.imagine how much it costs to feed them.the equiptment some of you think (think nylon collars, big chains, axels, breaking stick, and treadmills are signs of dogfighting) i say they're sign of a responsible owner. thick nylon collarshelp keeps the dogs on that big chain which keeps you from have a yard accidents, axel help hol that big chain so it doesn't break again to prevent you from a yard accident, break stick are so if this does happen, if you don'thave one what will you do sit there and watch your dog tear each other up?stick your hands in their mouth and yell "please let go?" i know what you're all thinking and you can't leave this dogs running loose unsupervised it's in the gene system to be animal aggresive and to try and breed it out of them is like trying to stop lions from being meat eaters it's natural.like i said before if not aggresive towards animals they will be towards humans. treadmill show you keep your dogs health, these dog aren't meant to be over weighted. if they are it causes health problems hip problems and can be passed on to offspring.that'sjust making more unwanted puppies.that'swhy a tredmill is important. and plus the guy is 60yrs old you'd thinkhe wanna walk that many dogs? i wouldn' twhy not have a tredmill, that shouldn'tmake you a dogfighter, cause youhave a mill. vets have mills they're not dog fighters. so why can't we? also home security was involved. why???
him and his son are not terroists!!! why don't they go spend money on getting murderers and kidnappers offthe street. Just think about it while they were busting a 60yr old man and destroying a gene pool that basicly made apbts all nomatter if you hunt, show, weight pull, or anything
he had a partin itand that gene pool can not be replaced!
i'm not an expert,but i've been around these dogs for over 14yrs and i don't think they are no better than BSL!!
they made fb and gb look like murderers when they are really heros to this breed like i said no matter if you hunt, show, or weight pull, or just cuddleup toyour dog at night and rub his/or her belly. if you look far in his or her ped Boudreaux's name is there. his lines were not only known for fighting, there are alotof show dogs with it.i don'thave anything else to say but don't go calling name unless youknow the whole storyabout the situation!
i meant to offense towards anyone, i'm just showingthe whole picture unlike the media and othernews boards!
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