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The Hobbit Hole XX - And take the hidden paths that run...
The Freeper Hobbit Hole ^

Posted on 03/05/2005 11:51:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

And take the hidden paths that run...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: RMDupree

the beatings will continue until morale improves...


3,161 posted on 03/24/2005 8:06:40 PM PST by g'nad
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To: g'nad

g'nad, don't the jury people have your name permanently asterisked as "unsuitable for jury duty, will vote for death if the case warrants - and it warrants"?


3,162 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:39 PM PST by JenB
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To: g'nad; Ramius; Sam Cree; JenB; All

Well, I know MY morale has improved. Becky is back in bed now and I think I'll go lay down next to her to ensure she doesn't equate my being on the computer with being ignorant to her tricks.

Good night everyone!


3,163 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:37 PM PST by RMDupree (HHD: Ask me about my crabs!)
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To: Sam Cree

There was a thread... and in searching I'm not finding it. It's gotta be here someplace... was a beautiful thing.

Two-master, about equal height. Square rig on the foremast, square tops'ls on the after (main?) mast, but a big gaff mainsail. I'm not getting good recall on what that's called, but I thought it was a barkentine.

But beyond that... really seriously pretty boat. All wood, with nice brightwork all around. [sigh] Haven't yet heard what finally happened to it. They were trying to yank it off the beach with a tug, but last I saw they had parted the hawser and were not making much headway on the problem.


3,164 posted on 03/24/2005 8:16:43 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: RMDupree

Good night Ruthy - going to sleep myself.


3,165 posted on 03/24/2005 8:19:45 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: g'nad; RMDupree
Hey...Dr. Dobson has a book called "The Strong-Willed Child"...

At our church in DC Jr. was known as the "Strong-Willed Poster Child."

3,166 posted on 03/24/2005 8:19:46 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Please Lord, deliver Terri from the Greer Reaper.)
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To: g'nad

LOL... Apu accent... I have to be careful, since a key member of my staff has ~exactly~ that accent, and it just cracks me up. I have to sometimes just smirk, grit my teeth and walk away before I lose it. :-)

[Apu on the phone, talking to telephone company in Britain: ] "What I am thinking is this... that you are not paying attention to what I am saying... I know about my routers here and I am saying that they are properly configured and they are not the problem but I am saying that it is your router that is really f----d up. This is what I am saying to you..."

Of course, he's exactly right... but he drives the brits out of their minds. I have to just leave. :-)


3,167 posted on 03/24/2005 8:26:09 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

My parents thought I was their strong-willed child until brother #2 came along. Of course by that time they'd beaten me out of most of my stubborness. He still gets beat on a regular basis and he's twelve. He'd end up a criminal if we let him get his way... as it is I think there's a good chance he'll end up a preacher...

Did you use the "Strong-Willed Child" book? I know my parents didn't like it but I forget why.


3,168 posted on 03/24/2005 8:26:45 PM PST by JenB
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To: Ramius

My dad has a story he likes to tell about dealing with an Indian company bigshot who wanted to inform him that they were not going to lose their shirt in this deal - but it came out "We will not be taking our pants off for anyone". Don't know how he kept a straight face in there.

Of course, this was the same guy his partner wished a happy Thanksgiving to. In email, and the guy was in India...


3,169 posted on 03/24/2005 8:28:59 PM PST by JenB
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To: Ramius; Sam Cree

Brigantine, after some research, not Barkantine. Brigantines can be two masted, but apparently Barks, and Barkentine have to have three.

[sigh]


3,170 posted on 03/24/2005 8:33:18 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: JenB
Did you use the "Strong-Willed Child" book? I know my parents didn't like it but I forget why.

I think somewhere along the line we read it. And I think it's actually been updated.

We did a "Growing Kid's God's Way" class at our former church. When the guy said his daughters had ~never~ lied to him, I tuned him out.

Thing of it is, you can learn a lot of good principles for dealing with kids. But you gotta be flexible. They're all different.

3,171 posted on 03/24/2005 8:35:16 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Please Lord, deliver Terri from the Greer Reaper.)
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To: RMDupree

Good night then! :-)


3,172 posted on 03/24/2005 8:35:26 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

Cool.


3,173 posted on 03/24/2005 8:37:12 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Oh, yeah, that "Growing Kids God's Way" stuff is scary. When they say to put your breastfeeding infant on a schedule - well, that's just not right. I've known a couple families who used it and it wasn't good stuff. Either their kids were rebellious, or totally cowed.

Heh, and any parents who thinks their kids have never lied, probably deserves to be lied to anyway. Sheesh.


3,174 posted on 03/24/2005 8:39:17 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

LOL... that's too funny.


3,175 posted on 03/24/2005 8:39:27 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

The Indian guys I deal with have a good command of English. Much better than most of the other foreign students - better than some of the native students, actually. So no personally funny anecdotes.


3,176 posted on 03/24/2005 8:41:04 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB

My company has many Indian folk... in lots of disciplines. Some are better at english than others.

My network engineer has a great command of english, but it is clear that it will always be a second language to him, and the accent is very thick. Some of the other staff can't understand a word he says. I don't know if I have a good ear for it or what, but I end up having to translate sometimes.

But he talks Cisco like nobody's bidness. I got him from a major [unnamed] hosting provider, where he was their senior backbone engineer. The man has a gift. He's done some stuff with our network that is just Pure Magic.


3,177 posted on 03/24/2005 8:48:16 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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To: Ramius

One of my colleagues told me that the under-30 crowd in India, and the very old people, speak much better English than the population in between. He said when the British left, they took their educators with them and the education system pretty nearly collapsed. In recent years they've brought it back, and all Indian children learn English as their second or third language (they'll learn the regional dialect at home, use only Indian or Hindi in school, and sometimes learn neighboring dialects or other languages in addition).

I don't usually have trouble understanding their accents either. Now, the Chinese students... well, if they'd learn English...


3,178 posted on 03/24/2005 8:51:32 PM PST by JenB
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To: JenB
When they say to put your breastfeeding infant on a schedule - well, that's just not right.

Our current church was pretty big into GKGW for a while. Women in the nursery used to swear that the crankiest babies were the GKGW babies.

When we took the class, Jr. was 7. There was no provision for adapting to an ADHD child. There was a woman in our class whose husband didn't like her taking the kids to church, but he tolerated it. She got no help from him. There was no provision for that. Everything was the same formula supposed to work for every child.

Luke would have died on the GKGW feeding schedule.

3,179 posted on 03/24/2005 8:58:36 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Please Lord, deliver Terri from the Greer Reaper.)
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To: JenB

There's a really nifty thing he just did with our WAN that I think is just darn cool... You can probably appreciate this:

We have 25 offices around the country, and each one has two internet connections, to different providers (usually a T1 and a DSL or wireless backup, but the two biggest offices have a T3 with a T1 and wireless backup). The WAN is VPN based using Cisco IPSec (3DES... yadda yadda). The routers in each office now do ~on demand~ tunnels, building up and tearing down VPN tunnels on the fly, fully meshing all the offices, but without the overhead of any permanent static tunnels, and using both circuits in each place to load balance and failover... automatically healing around outages.

I think its just the most wicked cool thing ever. I dunno if it is perfectly bulletproof, but it's pretty darn close.

Now... once I get Exchange to replicate and failover to another site... *that* will rock. :-)


3,180 posted on 03/24/2005 9:06:52 PM PST by Ramius (Hmmm... yeah, that'd be great...)
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