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To: Stultis

I have found you "directed mutation" stuff. Barry Hall and John Cairns. If you have access to Futuyma's 3rd edition this is discussed on p 285.

Basically the experiments are in serious doubt. Hall used a transposon as one of the mutations that needed to be reverted (directed). Unfortunately the experimental set up required the cells to grow on salicin. It required 2 mutations to get there. But while waiting for the mutations to occur the cells were in a state of starvation, and their particular IS tended to "jump" a lot faster during starvation.

While the results are not totally discredited, some new experiments will be required to revive this at this time (Genetics 120:887 for the original article).


141 posted on 02/15/2005 8:50:43 AM PST by furball4paws (It's not the cough that carried him off - it's the coffin they carried him off in (O. Nash -I think))
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To: furball4paws
While the results are not totally discredited, some new experiments will be required to revive this at this time (Genetics 120:887 for the original article).

Am I right in surmising that Hall's doubtful results are one of the main pillars of Spetner's thinking?

142 posted on 02/15/2005 8:54:37 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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Thanks! My main point was just to note that these phenomena (whatever their validity turns out to be) can be and are considered and debated without shattering the darwinian "paradigm".
143 posted on 02/15/2005 8:57:47 AM PST by Stultis
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