[claptrap]

I notice you convienetly left out an explantion of the "sons of god" who came down and came into the daughters of men, from the story of Noah who were these they arent called angels but I suppose there is some strange translation problem eh? And how is it God goes from sons plural to a only singular son ?

[biblewonk]

I notice you convienetly left out an explantion of the "sons of god" who came down and came into the daughters of men, from the story of Noah who were these they arent called angels but I suppose there is some strange translation problem eh? And how is it God goes from sons plural to a only singular son ?

Um. I haven't gone back to see what post you accuse me of manipulating, but the topic of scriptural use of "son/sons of God" is not trivial. The things that came down to earth and shagged human woman and made giants that were killed off in the flood must have been demons. No other explination works with the rest of the bible.

[realpatriot71]

I notice you convienetly left out an explantion of the "sons of god" who came down and came into the daughters of men, from the story of Noah who were these they arent called angels but I suppose there is some strange translation problem eh? And how is it God goes from sons plural to a only singular son ?

The "Sons of God" are the men decnended from Seth - the monotheistic people - those who followed the Lord. The "daughters of men" are the women from the decendants of Cain, who killed his own brother. Cain started the wickedness that eventually leads to the flood. You see, when the men of the monothesistic people would marry a woman from the decendants of Cain, this allowed the corruption to find its way into the people of God, until it was such an evil world that the Lord could find only 8 people to be saved and start over again.

[Chris Talk]

I am not certain that Jesus ever claimed to be a "ben-Elohim" = Son of the Celestials, the "gods.. "

I am certain that he never claimed to be a "ben-YHWH", a Son of the God of Israel.

He does, of course, claim to be "ben-h'adam" (ben-huh-DAHM), i.e. Son of Man, Son of the Earthling...But this is the Essene eschatological term, a code word for the Messiah, and is the same word used in Dan 7 and elsewhere in Messianic works Essene, apocryphal, and canonical.