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To: Unam Sanctam
If you are arguing that the Jewish establishment did not lobby to put Jesus to death, I submit that all historical evidence is to the contrary.
  1. How do you define "the Jewish establishment ?"
  2. Do you know how many Jews were alive at the time of Yeshua ?
  3. Do you know how many lived in the land of Israel ?
  4. Do you know how many were in Jerusalem for the Passover ?
  5. Do you know what a Roman occupation was like ?
  6. Have you read the account of Caesar's Gallic wars ?
  7. Do you know how the Romans ruled Judea ?
  8. Do you know how many Jews were present at his trial and lobbied to put him to death ?
  9. Do you know who gave them power ?

131 posted on 02/03/2004 4:40:04 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
Are you saying the Sanhedrin and the High Priests, Caiaphas and Annas (one of whom had been deposed and installed by the Romans in place of the other), did not represent the Jewish "establishment," at least in Jerusalem?
133 posted on 02/03/2004 4:53:31 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: af_vet_1981
Look, I don't know what your game is, but I have already said that my Church teaches that there is no collective responsibility of the Jewish people, either at the time or later, for the death of Jesus. Therefore, you do not have to worry that I am about to go out and start a pogrom. Therefore, you don't need to try and falsify history to show that no Jews were implicated in Jesus' death. They were, and for quite understandable reasons, he challenged their religious beliefs. So there is no need to get upset about it. It would be a legitimate criticism to say that not enough people are aware of the Nostra Aetate declaration, but it is not necessary to try and falsify history and deny any involvement by individual Jews in the death of Jesus. They are two separate issues, and it is unfair to label someone who adheres to the accuracy of the Gospel story without more as anti-Semitic.
136 posted on 02/03/2004 5:00:14 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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