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Everything you have been taught, all your life, about the police and the courts and the justice system is a lie.
X ^ | 10 Sep 2024 | Devon Eriksen

Posted on 09/11/2024 6:00:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Everything you have been taught, all your life, about the police and the courts and the justice system is a lie.

Take all your mental images, everything you learned in primary school, every episode of "Perry Mason" or "Law and Order" or "The Rookie", crumple them up, throw them away. Banish them to a corner of your mind prominently labeled "fairy stories for little kids".

That is not how any of this works.

The police do not exist to protect you from criminals.

Detectives do not exist to investigate crime and find the offenders.

Courts do not exist to find the guilty and punish them.

Before there were detectives, before there were police, before there were courts or even codified law, those who offended the community were stopped. They were found. They were punished.

They were found, stopped, and punished by a mob of their neighbors.

First courts, then police, then detectives and investigative agencies were introduced, not to catch criminals, but as an alternative to mob justice.

But that wasn't because mob justice doesn't protect you, punish criminals, or keep order. It does those things just fine.

No, these things were introduced because mobs sometimes lynch the wrong person, or punish the right person disproportionately to the crime.

Police and courts exist to protect the accused from your outrage. They exist not create justice, but to focus it, tame it, point it in a safe direction.

As western civilization became powerful, rich, technologically advanced, refined, we began to be able to afford the luxury of scruples, principles... philosophy.

We advanced beyond the mere need to keep order, and developed systems for tempering vengeance and order with justice, and ultimately mercy.

It was difficult and complex, but we could figure it out.

t was expensive, but we could afford it.

And it worked.

Not perfectly, but so well we forgot it was a substitute for the mob.

And agents of the justice system forgot that they are not warriors and paladins who fight to protect, but arbitrators and diplomats who balance opposing interests.

They began to fancy themselves sheepdogs who protect the sheep, forgetting that sheepdogs don't protect sheep. They herd sheep. Wild sheep are protected by rams.

They forgot where the word "rampage" comes from.

Because when police and courts and officers of the law fail to be an improvement on mob justice, then mob justice will return.

It will be as brutal as ever. It will be as capricious as ever. It will punish some of the innocent along with the guilty.

But it will do what mob justice always did. It will stop anti-social thugs from re-offending, either through fear and deterrence, or the dirt of a shallow grave.

The first people to get fed up and inflict street justice will, of course, arouse the ire of the system. Even when the police don't do their jobs, they will not suffer anyone else to do them instead, lest it come to light that they are a luxury, not a necessity.

But police are only numerous and powerful enough to stop the small minority of people who can't behave. They cannot deal with an entire society of outraged, angry, violent men, decent men, sons, brothers, husbands, fathers, who are tired of having their decency mistaken for weakness.

Police can treat men who try to stop criminals as if they were criminals, arresting them, charging them, imprisoning them, trying to deter the rest.

But mobs can treat the police who try to defend outlaws as they were outlaws, by administering street justice to them as well.

This is what the UK is on the verge of. It just depends how long it takes more of the population to decide that they have little to lose in opposing a system that already plans to take everything away from them and leave them with nothing.

People are tough. Civilization is fragile.

Plan accordingly.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: courts; devoneriksen; georgefloyd; justice; police; thecourts; thejusticesystem; thepolice; travonmartin; vigilante; westerncivluxuries
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To: Rummyfan
"But mobs can treat the police who try to defend outlaws as they were outlaws, by administering street justice to them as well."

That would perhaps work in a more efficient manor if it were applied to prosecutors and judges first....maybe.

21 posted on 09/11/2024 7:32:35 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Ruby Ridge.

Waco.

The term “Jack-booted Thugs” predates Obama, and the evil people to whom it refers also predate Obama.


22 posted on 09/11/2024 7:36:24 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Dalberg-Acton

I just bought the book (Theft of Fire)- thanks for the recommendation.


23 posted on 09/11/2024 7:41:07 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: Rummyfan

Love it, I would rather have a Sheriff accountable to voters, than a Mayor appointed, or Governor appointed Chief. A political army without doubt. Other than that, “Let’s Roll” works for me.


24 posted on 09/11/2024 7:57:58 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Rummyfan

Profound rampage!


25 posted on 09/11/2024 8:40:02 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Rummyfan

The article is whack!
36 years as a beat-cop, crime scene detective, and booking officer, I call this writer a buffoon.
The courts were always just in all cases.
I don’t know what pique the author to come to his opinions.
I have investigated a whole bunches
of crimes through the years. I have never experienced what the author claims were the outcomes of ‘so many bad decisions’.
Dude has a twisted view of things. He’s a liar, and/or really stupid and ignorant.


26 posted on 09/11/2024 8:40:22 AM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding. )
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To: dasboot

I think he may be in England. Currently in England the law complex seems to be more interested in arresting and convicting people for praying in their heads and expressing opinions contrary to the government’s than in arresting pedophiles and rape gangs.


27 posted on 09/11/2024 9:30:02 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: dasboot

Bump


28 posted on 09/11/2024 10:03:35 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Chicory

You may be right, according to what I have been reading about the U.K. since receiving your reply.
I hope the attitude in England is not
infectious.
The folks here have firearms...at least for now. Praying for Trump to, at least, keep the Republic free.


29 posted on 09/11/2024 10:10:12 AM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding. )
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To: PGR88

“When the laws that are meant to protect you from the powerful protect the powerful from you your society is in decline’’.- Ayn Rand.


30 posted on 09/11/2024 10:48:17 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Rummyfan

Bkmk


31 posted on 09/11/2024 12:01:28 PM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: Rummyfan

Be careful that your dissatisfaction with ‘the system’ doesn’t lead you to ‘burn it all down’.

That’s what the left wants, because they want to ‘rebuild it back better’.

In their utopia people who don’t go along wind up in gulags.


32 posted on 09/11/2024 12:22:30 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Rummyfan
I don’t especially want a safe society. I want a society that has a heck of a lot fewer troublemakers.

"In a Fourth Turning, the nation's core will matter more than its diversity. Team, brand, and standard will be new catchwords. Anyone and anything not describable in those terms could be shunted aside—or worse. Do not isolate yourself from community affairs. Being “unplugged” could penalize you at a time you might need to know what all levels of government are doing just to meet your most basic of needs. Appearances will matter. Justice will be rough, because society will require more order but have fewer resources and less time to impose it. As technicalities give way, innocent people will suffer. If you don't want to be misjudged, don't act in a way that might provoke Crisis-era authority to deem you guilty. If you belong to a racial or ethnic minority, brace for a nativist backlash from an assertive (and possibly authoritarian) majority. At the height of Crisis, you might have to choose between loyalty to the national community and loyalty to your own group. Isolating yourself from people of other races or ethnicities could be risky, because you may need emergency help from people you might now be able to avoid."

- Strauss and Howe, The Fourth Turning

I think we're about to see this. MAGA is, among other things, a call to a return to normalcy, and the more the socialist opposition uses violence in pursuit of its ends, the more likely it becomes that a posse commitatus reaction will occur, first in red states and then across the society. This would be particularly true during a Harris administration, though it may be less so if Trump can get the reins of power back in November.

33 posted on 09/11/2024 7:01:40 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: dasboot; Chicory
The folks here have firearms

And it's the same people running these corrupt courts and corrupt government institutions in the U.S. (the cops bosses), who are now ramping up their attacks on self defense in America. The lawyers in government are there to make damn sure if an innocent crime victims slips, they'll make sure they fall.

The attacks on self defense in this country are quite real and the cops will do what they're told because they know who butters their bread.

34 posted on 09/23/2024 2:21:23 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dasboot
The courts were always just in all cases.

Bull s**t. It took me 1 second to come up with an unjust case. Just ask Derek Chauvin what he thinks about your comment.

35 posted on 09/23/2024 2:30:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I wrote what I had experienced during my career. I am, though, aware that serious injustices do occur, but not in any trial I can remember.
The call of the judges or the juries have been appropriate in my estimation.
I cannot presume that egregious determinations are common.... or, maybe, I was very thorough in documenting evidence.


36 posted on 09/23/2024 4:25:52 PM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding. )
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To: dragnet2

I wrote what I had experienced during my career. I am, though, aware that serious injustices do occur, but not in any trial I can remember.
The call of the judges or the juries have been appropriate in my estimation.
I cannot presume that egregious determinations are common.... or, maybe, I was very thorough in documenting evidence.


37 posted on 09/23/2024 4:25:53 PM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding. )
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To: dasboot
The article is whack!

I see, now you explain your comments are only about your tiny bubble of experience. But the fact is you're way wrong and the article in not "Wacked" as you stated.

Our courts, the judges, the DOJ et al, have become a sad corrupt joke. And I can cite endless cases to prove this.

38 posted on 09/23/2024 5:36:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Humans are biased very much by experiences and biased information. I sorrow that people ascribe to a wide, erroneous idea that the whole of U.S. court systems are, indeed, corrupt.
Just not the case in my experience.
The alternative is much worse than what exists, here, in the U.S.A.


39 posted on 09/24/2024 7:26:29 AM PDT by dasboot (Nuanced foreign relations is the germ of international misunderstanding. )
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To: dasboot

I sorrow that some people fail to grasp the depth and severity of the corruption, subversion and decline when it’s all around them.


40 posted on 09/24/2024 10:33:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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