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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine (2 year anniversary)
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Posted on 02/24/2024 5:59:01 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

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To: BeauBo

I just found out that drone batteries lose lots of range during very cold weather. Same as EV automobiles. There are batteries that resist very cold weather, I hope Ukraine has them stockpiled, for operation >>> Kremlin - Moscow Cold Plunge.


22,541 posted on 11/29/2025 3:11:35 AM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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To: AdmSmith

The Russians have no capability to make any kind of grand breakthrough like in desert storm, ww2 or even the civil war.

Every move is watched, and then attacked along with the fact that their mechanized advance would be led with mules, ladas, and golf carts.

Go back to WW2 and the battle of the bulge. Germany was able to build up large forces relatively undetected, today even if they could amass such a force, would detected, and attacked even before reaching the contact line.


22,542 posted on 11/29/2025 4:37:48 AM PST by blitz128
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To: AdmSmith

Soviet Union 2.0
Russify captured areas, then claim protection of Russian speakers(notice Russian speakers are not necessarily Russian).

Ukraine and other Baltic countries and Poland …..suffered decades of this policy under Soviet Union 1.0

New boss same as the old boss


22,543 posted on 11/29/2025 4:43:43 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128; dimwit; load; dennisw
Russian forces continued offensive operations in northern Sumy Oblast on November 27 and 28 but did not make confirmed advances.

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Unconfirmed claims: A Russian milblogger reportedly affiliated with the Russian Northern Grouping of Forces claimed that elements of the Russian 1427th Motorized Rifle Regiment (11th Army Corps [AC], Leningrad Military District [LMD]) advanced near Tetkino (southwest of Glushkovo).[44]

Russian forces attacked in Sumy and Kursk oblasts, including north of Sumy City near Varachyne, Kindrativka, and Andriivka, and northeast of Sumy City near Yunakivka on November 26, 27, and 28.[45] Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces counterattacked near Oleksiivka, Yunakivka (both northeast of Sumy City), Kindrativka, and Andriivka (both north of Sumy City).[46]

The Russian milblogger, reportedly affiliated with the Russian Northern Grouping of Forces, claimed on November 27 that Ukrainian forces have encircled elements of the Russian 1st Motorized Rifle Regiment (Territorial Control, Russian Aerospace Forces [VKS] and reportedly under the operational control of the Russian Northern Grouping of Forces) in Bezsalivka (northwest of Sumy City).[47] The milblogger claimed that Russian forces have finished reinforcing the 3rd Battalion of the 30th Motorized Rifle Regiment (72nd Motorized Rifle Division, 44th Army Corps [AC], Leningrad Military District [LMD]) with technical specialists and wounded servicemembers for future offensive efforts near Oleksiivka.[48]

Order of Battle: Elements of the Russian 810th Separate Naval Infantry Brigade (Black Sea Fleet) and 30th Motorized Rifle Regiment (72nd Motorized Rifle Division, 44th AC) are reportedly operating near Oleksiivka, Andriivka, and Kindrativka.[49] Elements of the 83rd Separate Airborne (VDV) Brigade are reportedly operating near Yunakivka.[50] Drone operators and other elements of the Chechen Akhmat Spetsnaz Aida Detachment, the Krechet unit of the 83rd VDV Brigade, and the 20th Separate Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Defense Brigade (Leningrad Military District [LMD]) are reportedly operating in the Sumy direction.[51]

Russian Main Effort: Eastern Ukraine

Russian Subordinate Main Effort #1

Russian objective: Push Ukrainian forces back from the international border with Belgorod Oblast and approach to within tube artillery range of Kharkiv City.

Russian forces recently advanced and Ukrainian forces recently maintained positions or advanced in northern Kharkiv Oblast.

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Assessed Russian advances: Geolocated footage published on November 27 indicates that Russian forces recently advanced in central and southern Vovchansk (northeast of Kharkiv City).[52]

Unconfirmed claims: A Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces advanced into western Lyman (northeast of Kharkiv City).[53]

Refinement of areas under Russian claims: Geolocated footage published on November 27 indicates that Ukrainian forces maintain positions along the T-2104 Vovchansk-Chuhunivka highway in central Vovchansk, an area where Russian sources previously claimed that Russian forces maintained a presence.[54]

Russian forces attacked northeast of Kharkiv City near Vovchansk, Synelnykove, Lyman, and Vilcha on November 26, 27, and 28.[55]

A Ukrainian battalion commander operating in the Vovchansk direction reported on November 27 that Ukrainian forces hold Vovchansk, refuting Russian claims that Russian forces seized Vovchansk.[56] The commander noted that Russian forces are committing more manpower and trying to seize Vovchansk with highly attritional infantry-led assaults. The spokesperson of a Ukrainian brigade operating in the Kharkiv direction reported on November 27 that Russian forces are attempting small group infiltration missions and noted that Russian forces are improving their camouflage during these infiltration events.[57] The spokesperson stated that Russian forces have tried to take advantage of poor weather conditions to establish river crossings in the Vovchansk direction in recent weeks.

A Russian milblogger reportedly affiliated with the Russian Northern Grouping of Forces claimed that the Russian military command is redeploying the 2nd Battalion of the Russian 1st Motorized Rifle Regiment (Territorial Control, Russian Aerospace Forces [VKS]) to Vovchansk.[58]

Order of Battle: Elements of the Russian 128th Motorized Rifle Brigade (44th Army Corps [AC], Leningrad Military District [LMD]), including its 2nd Motorized Rifle Battalion, reportedly continue to operate in Vovchansk.[59] Elements of the Chechen Akhmat Spetsnaz Bati Detachment (204th Akhmat Spetsnaz Regiment) are reportedly operating in Kharkiv Oblast.[60]

Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Velykyi Burluk direction on November 27 and 28 but did not advance.

Russian forces attacked northeast of Velykyi Burluk near Ambarne and southeast of Velykyi Burluk near Kolodyazne and Dvorichanske on November 26, 27, and 28.[61]

Order of Battle: Elements of the Russian Storm Detachment of the 7th Motorized Rifle Regiment (11th AC, LMD) and the 1st Battalion of the 83rd Motorized Rifle Regiment (69th Motorized Rifle Division, 6th Combined Arms Army [CAA], LMD) are reportedly operating in the Milove-Khatnie (northeast of Velykyi Burluk) area.[62]

Russian Subordinate Main Effort #2

Russian objective: Capture the remainder of Luhansk Oblast and push westward into eastern Kharkiv Oblast and encircle northern Donetsk Oblast

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Ukrainian forces maintained positions or recently advanced in the Kupyansk direction.

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Refinement of areas under Russian claims: Geolocated footage published on November 26 and 27 shows Ukrainian forces operating in central Kupyansk and eastern Kurylivka (southeast of Kupyansk), an area where Russian sources previously claimed that Russian forces maintained a presence.[63] ISW assesses that changes in eastern Kurylivka did not occur within the past 24 hours.

Russian forces attacked northwest of Kupyansk near Mala Shapkivka; east of Kupyansk near Petropavlivka; southeast of Kupyansk near Pishchane and Kurylivka; and south of Kupyansk near Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi on November 26, 27, and 28.[64] Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces counterattacked in western Kupyansk and near Monachynivka (northwest of Kupyansk), Radkivka (north of Kupyansk), and Tamarhanivka (southwest of Kupyansk).[65]

Order of Battle: Drone operators of the Russian 352nd Motorized Rifle Regiment (11th Army Corps [AC], Leningrad Military District [LMD]) are striking Ukrainian positions in central Kurylivka.[66] Drone operators of the 68th Motorized Rifle Division (6th Combined Arms Army [CAA], LMD) are striking Ukrainian equipment near Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi and reportedly striking Ukrainian vehicles on the outskirts of and within Kupyansk.[67] Drone operators of the 27th Motorized Rifle Brigade (1st Guards Tank Army [GTA], Moscow Military District [MMD]) are reportedly striking Ukrainian vehicles in Kupyansk.[68] Kub loitering munition operators of the 288th Artillery Brigade (1st GTA, MMD) are operating in the Kupyansk direction.[69]

Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Borova direction on November 27 and 28 but did not advance.

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Russian forces attacked northeast of Borova near Novoplatonivka and Kruhlyakivka; east of Borova near Kopanky and Shyikivka; and southeast of Borova near Hrekivka, Novovodyane, Novoyehorivka, Druzhelyubivka, Olhivka, and Tverdokhlibove on November 26, 27, and 28.[70]

Russian forces recently advanced in the Slovyansk-Lyman direction.

Assessed Russian advances: Geolocated footage published on November 28 indicates that Russian forces seized Kolodyazi (northeast of Lyman) and advanced south of the settlement, indicating that Russian forces seized the settlement on a prior date.[71]

Unconfirmed claims: Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces advanced toward the eastern outskirts of Lyman, south and southeast of Korovii Yar (northwest of Lyman), north of Ozerne, and on the northeastern outskirts of Dibrova (both southeast of Lyman).[72]

Russian forces attacked near Lyman itself; northwest of Lyman near Oleksandrivka, Karpivka, Novoselivka, Yarova, Korovii Yar, Shandryholove, Drobysheve, and Serednie; north of Lyman near Novyi Myr, Stavky, Ridkodub, and Hlushchenkove; northeast of Lyman near Kolodyazi; east of Lyman near Zarichne and Torske; and southeast of Lyman near Maslyakivka, Ozerne, and Yampil on November 26, 27, and 28.[73] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces counterattacked near Dibrova and Ozerne.[74]

The spokesperson of a Ukrainian brigade operating in the Lyman direction reported on November 28 that Russian forces have been attacking toward Lyman with high quantities of drones and personnel since the end of May 2025.[75] The spokesperson noted that Russian forces are using infiltration tactics to penetrate and accumulate in the Ukrainian rear for further attacks. The spokesperson also noted that Russian forces in this direction include a significant number of mercenaries from various African countries. The spokesperson reported that Russian forces are mostly active in the windbreaks near Lyman and that the Russian military command in the Lyman direction continues to order attritional assaults.[76] The spokesperson stated that Russian forces are attempting to bypass Lyman from the south and the north.

Order of Battle: Drone operators of the Russian 16th Spetsnaz Brigade (Russian General Staff’s Main Directorate [GRU]) are reportedly striking Ukrainian vehicles near Sydorove (west of Lyman).[77] Drone operators of the Rubikon Center for Advanced Unmanned Technologies and elements of the 144th Motorized Rifle Division (20th CAA, MMD) are reportedly operating in the Lyman direction.[78]

Russian Subordinate Main Effort #3

Russian objective: Capture the entirety of Donetsk Oblast, the claimed territory of Russia’s proxies in Donbas, and advance into Dnipropetrovsk Oblast

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Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Siversk direction on November 27 and 28 but did not make confirmed advances.

Assessed Russian infiltrations: Geolocated footage published on November 27 shows Russian forces striking Ukrainian positions north of Platonivka (northwest of Siversk), an area that ISW previously assessed as a Russian advance.[79]

Unconfirmed claims: The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed on November 27 that Russian forces seized Vasyukivka (southwest of Siversk).[80] A Russian milblogger credited elements of the Russian 85th Motorized Rifle Brigade (3rd Combined Arms Army [CAA], formerly 2nd Luhansk People’s Republic Army Corps [LNR AC], Southern Military District [SMD]) with the claimed seizure of Vasyukivka.[81] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces advanced to the eastern outskirts of Svyato-Pokrovske (south of Siversk) and northeast and east of Zakitne (northwest of Siversk).[82]

Russian forces attacked near and within Siversk itself; northwest of Siversk near Dronivka and Platonivka and toward Zakitne; northeast of Siversk near Serebryanka; southeast of Siversk near Vyimka; south of Siversk near Svyato-Pokrovske and Fedorivka; and southwest of Siversk near Sakko i Vantsetti and Vasyukivka on November 26 to 28.[83]

Ukrainian 11th Army Corps (AC) spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Dmytro Zaporozhets reported on November 27 that Russian forces have intensified assaults in the Siversk direction and are attempting to use ground lines of communication (GLOCs) from Verkhnokamyanske (east of Siversk) to reach southern Siversk.[84] The spokesperson of a Ukrainian brigade operating in the Siversk direction reported on November 28 that Russian forces are attacking in small fireteams of two to five servicemembers and utilizing many drones to support ground attacks.[85] The spokesperson noted that Russian forces are mining roads with fiber optic sleeper drones.

Order of Battle: Artillery elements of the Russian Chechen Shrama Group of the 204th Akhmat Spetsnaz Regiment are reportedly striking Ukrainian positions east of Dronivka.[86]

Russian forces recently advanced in the Kostyantynivka-Druzhkivka tactical area.

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Assessed Ukrainian advances: Geolocated footage published on November 25 indicates that Ukrainian forces advanced in eastern Oleksandro-Shultyne (east of Kostyantynivka).[87] ISW assesses that this change likely did not occur in the last 48 hours.

Assessed Russian advances: Geolocated footage published on November 26 indicates that Russian forces recently advanced in southeastern Kostyantynivka.[88]

Assessed Russian infiltrations: Geolocated footage published on November 25 and 26 shows Ukrainian forces striking Russian forces in southern Kostyantynivka along the T-0516 Toretsk-Kostyantynivka highway and southeast of Kostyantynivka after what ISW assesses were Russian infiltration missions.[89]

Unconfirmed claims: A Russian milblogger claimed that Russian forces advanced to central Sofiivka (southwest of Druzhkivka).[90]

The Ukrainian National Police reported on November 28 that Russian forces conducted a KAB-250 guided glide bomb strike against Druzhkivka.[91]

Russian forces attacked near Kostyantynivka itself; northeast of Kostyantynivka near Chasiv Yar and toward Bondarne; east of Kostyantynivka near Oleksandro-Shultyne, Stupochky, and Predtechyne; southeast of Kostyantynivka near Ivanopillya and Pleshchiivka; southwest of Kostyantynivka near Yablunivka and toward Stepanivka; south of Druzhkivka near Rusyn Yar and toward Mykolaipillya; and southwest of Druzhkivka near Sofiivka and Volodymyrivka on November 26, 27, and 28.[92]

A Ukrainian journalist reported that over 4,000 residents remain in Kostyantynivka.[93]

A Russian milblogger posted footage reportedly showing Russian forces employing Kuryer unmanned ground vehicles (UGVs) equipped with AGS-17 automatic grenade launchers and 12.7 mm NSVT machine guns in the Kostyantynivka direction.[94]

Order of Battle: Drone operators of the Russian 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade (3rd CAA) and Gorynych Anti-Terrorist Unit (Federal Security Service [FSB] Presidential Regiment) are striking Ukrainian positions in eastern Oleksandro-Shultyne.[95] Drone operators of the 13th Rusichi Assault Detachment of the 1194th Motorized Rifle Regiment (4th Motorized Rifle Brigade, 3rd CAA) are reportedly striking Ukrainian forces in Kostyantynivka.[96] First-person view (FPV) drone operators of the 68th Separate Reconnaissance Battalion (20th Motorized Rifle Division, 8th CAA, SMD) are reportedly striking Ukrainian communications equipment near Sofiivka, intercepting Ukrainian drones over Novohryhorivka (southwest of Druzhkivka), and striking Ukrainian vehicles near Komyshuvakha (west of Druzhkivka).[97] FPV drone operators of the Anti-Tank Artillery Battalion of the 238th Artillery Brigade (8th CAA) are reportedly striking Ukrainian forces near Raiske (southwest of Druzhkivka).[98] Elements of the 77th Motorized Rifle Regiment (7th Military Base, 49th CAA, SMD) and the 1442nd Motorized Rifle Regiment (6th Motorized Rifle Division, 3rd AC, reportedly under operational control of the Southern Grouping of Forces) are reportedly operating southeast of Predtechyne.[99] Elements of the 336th Naval Infantry Brigade (Baltic Fleet) are operating east of Novotoretske (southwest of Druzhkivka).[100] FPV drone operators of the 58th Separate Spetsnaz Battalion (unofficially designated as the Okhotnik [Hunter] Spetsnaz Detachment, 51st CAA, formerly 1st Donetsk People’s Republic [DNR] AC, SMD) reportedly continue to operate in the Kostyantynivka direction.[101]

Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Dobropillya tactical area on November 27 and 28 but did not advance.

Russian forces attacked east of Shakhove and Nove Shakhove and toward Vilne and Toretske and southeast of Dobropillya near Zapovidne on November 26, 27, and 28.[102] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces counterattacked near Shakhove.[103]

The Ukrainian National Police reported on November 28 that Russian forces conducted a Shahed drone strike against a home in Dobropillya.[104]

Order of Battle: Elements of the Russian 1472nd Motorized Rifle Regiment (68th AC, Eastern Military District [EMD]) are intercepting Ukrainian drones over Mayak (southeast of Dobropillya).[105] Elements of the 33rd Motorized Rifle Regiment (20th Motorized Rifle Division) and the 163rd Tank Regiment (150th Motorized Rifle Division, 8th CAA) reportedly continue to operate in the Dobropillya direction.[106]

Russian forces recently advanced in the Pokrovsk direction.


22,544 posted on 11/29/2025 5:45:12 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: dennisw
November 28, 2025
Ukraine Rejects Trump’s Peace Plan – U.S. Reacts To Its Defiance

After rejecting a plan that would see Ukraine concede territory to Russia its leadership has come under new pressure.

Trump’s 28-point Ukraine plan, leaked by former U.S. envoy to Ukraine Keith Kellogg, was an attempt to shut the war down – at least for now. The European dimwits, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Ukrainian ruler managed to sabotage it:

One camp, including Vance, special envoy Steve Witkoff and other officials, views Ukraine as the primary obstacle to peace and favors using U.S. leverage to force Kyiv to make major compromises, according to multiple current and former officials.

The other camp, represented by Rubio and other officials, sees Russia as the culprit for having launched an unprovoked invasion of its neighbor and says Moscow will relent only if it pays a price for its aggression through sanctions and other pressure.

With his deputies vying for his attention along with Republican lawmakers and European leaders, President Donald Trump has veered back and forth on how to resolve the conflict.

While the 28-point plan included several points Russia could not agree to (like a 600,000 strong Ukrainian army), it also included significant concession Ukraine would have to make. It could have been the base for further discussions with Russia. But Rubio allowed the Ukrainians to shrink the plan down to 19 points by taking out any Ukrainian concessions while adding erroneous demands (a 800,000 strong Ukrainian army) which are unacceptable to Russia.

Trump is, as usual, behaving like a weathervane unable or unwilling to force his will on the opponents of his plan.

The Ukrainian army is collapsing. Pokrovsk had been enveloped and occupied a week ago. But Zelenski and others kept claimed that the Ukrainian was winning that battle. As the army breaks down and its soldiers flee from their positions (in Russian) other cities, like Huleipole and Siversk, will soon fall too.

There is no way for Ukraine to win the war. The longer the war takes the more will be lost for Ukraine.

The utter delusion behind the rejection of Trump’s 28 point plan was demonstrated by the European High Representative for Foreign Affairs Katja Kallas:

“We still need to get from a situation where Russia pretends to negotiate to a situation where they need to negotiate”

Sure. And how are going to get there? After 19 rounds of EU sanction on Russia the 20th package will certainly take care of it?

During the latest round of negotiations the acting president of Ukraine Vladimir Zelenski had named the chief of his office Andrei Yermak and the Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council Rustem Umerov as negotiators.
This was widely seen as an attempt to protect both persons from prosecution for their involvement in a recent case of large scale corruption.

Yermak admitted as much when he called up Simon Shuster at The Atlantic to put an end to the current round of negotiations:

Volodymyr Zelensky, in the next phase of talks to end the war in Ukraine, intends to draw a red line at the most contentious issue on the table: the Russian demand for Ukraine’s sovereign territory. As long as he remains the nation’s president, Zelensky will not agree to give up land in exchange for peace, Ukraine’s chief negotiator, Andriy Yermak, told me today in an exclusive interview.

“Not a single sane person today would sign a document to give up territory,” said Yermak, who has served as Zelensky’s chief of staff, lead negotiator, and closest aide throughout the full-scale war with Russia.

“As long as Zelensky is president, no one should count on us giving up territory. He will not sign away territory,” he told me by telephone from Kyiv. “The constitution prohibits this. Nobody can do that unless they want to go against the Ukrainian constitution and the Ukrainian people.”

Russia will ignore such nonsense and take by force whatever territory it thinks it needs. Further down Yermak explains to Shuster why he was tasked with negotiations:

In our interview, Yermak responded at length for the first time to the investigation and the resulting calls for him to step aside. “The pressure is enormous,” he told me. “The case is fairly loud, and there needs to be an objective and independent investigation without political influence.”

By appointing him to lead Ukraine’s negotiating team despite the scandal, Zelensky made clear to the people of Ukraine that Yermak continues to enjoy his trust, he said. The people of Ukraine “see that I have been beside the president all these years during all the most difficult, tragic, and dangerous moments,” Yermak said. “He trusted me with these negotiations that will decide the fate of our country. And if people support the president, that should answer all their questions.”

Ukraine has now officially rejected the core element – land for peace – of Trump’s plan. The U.S. immediately responded to this open defiance. Today, by using its control over the Ukrainian National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and various ‘nationalist’ and fascist media in Ukraine, it hit back at Yermak:

The National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO) are conducting searches at the office of Andrii Yermak, Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, in the government district on the morning of 28 November.

Source: Ukrainska Pravda journalist at the scene

Details: Ukrainska Pravda journalists managed to record around 10 employees from NABU and SAPO entering the government district.

The independent Ukrainian outlet Strana summarizes the political background of this action (machine translation):

Observers drew attention to the fact that the searches began just before the visit of US Army Secretary Daniel Driscoll, a representative of Donald Trump, to Kiev. According to a popular version, he should put pressure on the Ukrainian authorities to agree to concessions under the Trump peace plan, including with regard to the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the Donbass.

And just yesterday, Yermak solemnly proclaimed that as long as Vladimir Zelensky is president, Ukraine will not make territorial concessions.

Therefore, many people in political circles associate the searches of Yermak’s apartment with these events. That is, according to this version, Washington, with the help of NABU, makes it clear to Zelensky that the situation is serious and it’s time to adjust the position on the peace plan.

According to another version, the searches are connected with the long-running line of the “anti-Green coalition” to deprive the president of real power and turn him into the “queen of England” by losing control of the parliamentary majority and the government. One of the central elements of this plan is the dismissal of Yermak, which Zelensky has so far refused to do. But now, apparently, they decided to present him with new arguments in favor of such a step.

I seriously doubt the second explanation though this is not a neither nor situation. NABU is unlikely to act on anything without having a green light from the U.S. ambassador in Kiev.

Zelenski and Yermak will certainly hit back at NABU. A few month ago they had already tried to neuter it but had to retreat under pressure from Washington and Europe. They can use security services under their control -Ukraine’s FBI equivalent SBU – to arrest and indict NABU official.

The race is on.

Who will be the first to be arrested: Andrei Yermak or the chief investigators of NABU?

November 27, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-274

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

Ukraine Open Thread 2025-273

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-272

News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …

November 26, 2025
Navy Shows Why The U.S. Is Losing Its Relative Power

The defeat of the west is in part happening because its loss of the ability to sensibly analyze and manage things. A consequence is the relative loss of power.

Here it is the U.S. Navy demonstrating the issue:

Navy Cuts Constellation-Class Frigate Program Short as Shipbuilding Delays MountgCaptain

The U.S. Navy announced Tuesday it is terminating four ships from its troubled Constellation-class frigate program before construction begins, marking a significant strategic shift as the service grapples with mounting delays and seeks faster alternatives for fleet expansion.

Secretary of the Navy John Phelan revealed the decision on social media, stating that while the first two frigates—Constellation (FFG-62) and Congress (FFG-63)—will proceed to completion at Fincantieri Marinette Marine’s Wisconsin shipyard, the Navy has reached a “comprehensive framework” with the Italian-owned contractor to cancel the next four planned vessels in the class.

The announcement comes as the program faces severe schedule challenges. The lead ship, originally slated for delivery in April 2026, is now expected three years later in April 2029—a 36-month delay that has raised concerns about the Navy’s ability to execute its modernization plans.

Over the last 20+ years the Navy ship building management has not delivered even one class of ships on time and within the projected price frame. Moreover none ever reached the desired and promised capabilities.

Once there were to be 32 Zumwalt-class destroyers each with 16,000 tons of displacement. Only three were build and only two are active. The ships were supposed to carry new technologies which turned out to be too complicate and too expensive:

Cont. reading: Navy Shows Why The U.S. Is Losing Its Relative Power


22,545 posted on 11/29/2025 5:47:02 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: blitz128
Where is he?


22,546 posted on 11/29/2025 7:17:26 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: BeauBo
FtrPilot, where is he?


22,547 posted on 11/29/2025 7:18:19 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: PIF

22,548 posted on 11/29/2025 7:18:48 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: hamburger
where is BroJoeK?


22,549 posted on 11/29/2025 7:19:40 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: PIF; BeauBo; blitz128; gleeaikin; Dot; adorno; Timber Rattler; dennisw


22,550 posted on 11/29/2025 7:20:31 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: dennisw
Dimwit Denny the Rat


To: JonPreston

Do this again and I will push the abuse button.

22,284 posted on 11/20/2025 7:59:34 AM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )

22,551 posted on 11/29/2025 7:21:20 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: adorno
At least this guy isn't sitting in his basement. Maybe you should go?


22,552 posted on 11/29/2025 9:46:25 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: blitz128
Taking care of both at the same time.

****

hard to do when Ukraine is a corrupt rump state. did you see the second in command was arrested for theft?

22,553 posted on 11/29/2025 10:28:05 AM PST by scan_complete
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To: scan_complete; adorno; BeauBo; SpeedyInTexas
Why would anyone support Nazis?


22,554 posted on 11/29/2025 11:08:20 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: dennisw
Dimwit, here's an early Christmas present.

It's Neocon approved and suitable for framing.

Add it to your GOPe picture gallery


22,555 posted on 11/29/2025 3:12:12 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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