Posted on 06/18/2023 2:52:52 PM PDT by delta7
Until June 24 the combined air forces of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) are conducting their largest operation against Russia in the 74-year history of the alliance. The plan has been to disguise F-16 fighter jets as if they are piloted by Ukrainians, and pretend they are launched from Ukrainian territory.
In response, Russian artillery, missile and fighter-bomber forces have been disabling and destroying Ukrainian airfields, and every Ukrainian aircraft being flown from them.
Then on Friday, President Vladimir Putin dismissed the NATO pretence, warning that if an F-16 threatens to attack a Russian target, it would be “burned”, and so would the launch airbase and supporting aircraft – fuel tankers, electronic countermeasures, command-and-control, and decoys – no matter what NATO member-state flag they are flying, and on what territory they are based.
“The F-16 will also burn, there is no doubt,” Putin said in St. Petersburg on June 16. “But if they are located at air bases outside Ukraine, and used in combat operations, we will have to look at how to hit and where to hit those means that are used in combat operations against us. This is a serious danger of NATO’s further involvement in this armed conflict.” When the president and commander-in-chief announces “we will have to look at how to hit”, he means the General Staff have already assembled the operational intelligence and readied plans of attack with three minutes to launch; that is, against targets in Poland, Romania, Moldova, and possibly further west across the Czech and German borders.
In the president’s phrase “those means that are used in combat operations against us”, Putin also intends to identify airborne targets, manned and unmanned, over the Black, Baltic, and Barents Seas.
Never before has NATO’s collective defence proviso Article Five been explicitly challenged by the Kremlin. In practice, by describing the agreement of the NATO members that “an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all”, the NATO wording does no more than require each of the NATO members to take “forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary.” .
What is happening is that by aiming their display of NATO airpower at the Kremlin, US and German commanders in their Ramstein bunkers have provoked Putin to call their bluff: he is now aiming directly at the Poles, Romanians and Germans, telling them to “deem” whether war with Russia is “necessary”. “Well, the Poles,” added Putin, “okay, they have their own goals, they sleep and see the return of Western Ukraine. And, apparently, they are gradually coming to this.” In parallel, the US has escalated to nuclear weapons by flying two US Air Force (USAF) B-1B bombers from the UK Fairford airbase, refuelling in Germany, transiting Poland and Romania, to a point in the Black Sea off the Crimean coast and the Sevastopol naval base, where the aircraft transponders were turned off from public view.
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, French President Emmanuel Macron, and Polish President Andrzej Duda have been also been trying to disguise Article Five by negotiating between themselves — they told the press last week — “what sort of security guarantees they would provide [the Ukraine] once the war ends… ‘Our support will last as long as it is needed’, Macron said. ‘We must ensure that Russia will not only not win this unfortunate campaign but also can never repeat it.’”
German Leopard tanks, US Bradley infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) destroyed on the battlefield on June 10; source,
The Financial Times was told to report the three officials are discussing how to provide the Ukraine with security guarantees less potent than NATO membership with its application of Article Five, but instead assurances “that are expected to include annual provisions of cutting-edge weaponry, Nato-standard training and intelligence-sharing…‘The question is between guarantees and assurances’ said one European diplomat involved in the talks. ‘We can’t promise them we will go to war for them, but we can give long-term pledges to keep them safe in other ways.’”
On the Ukrainian battlefield, however, the “cutting-edge” German, French and US weaponry has been defeated, and the Ukrainian and foreign men and means to replace them destroyed. The outcome which the Russians have called “de-militarization” of Ukrainian territory at the start of the Special Military Operation last year has now been defined by Putin to mean the accession of the Russian territories east of the Dnieper River, plus a “sanitary zone” from the river westward from Kiev to Lvov which will be deep enough to prevent attacks on the Russian east; and Polish conversion of the Galician region between Lvov and the Polish border.
Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/JjxHCw5PP2s9/ For the full speech and question-and-answer session, see: (Russian); the English translation incomplete.
“As for demilitarization,” Putin said on Friday, “after all, look, soon Ukraine will stop using its own equipment at all, there is nothing left. Everything they fight on, and everything they use, is brought in from the outside, but you can’t win for so long. And our defense industry is being promoted from day to day. We have increased the output of military products 2.7 times over the past year, and the increase in the most popular samples is tenfold, and further growth is taking place. Enterprises work in two, three shifts, and some day and night. And this tells us that we have a very large margin of safety.”
The implication is that for the Russian war outcome to be checked or defeated before there is no Ukrainian army left on the battlefield, “security guarantees” and “assurances” from NATO will not be enough — Germany, France and Poland must fight Russia directly, activating Article Five thereby. Their bluff called in Friday’s ultimatum over the deployment of the F-16, “the serious danger of NATO’s further involvement in this armed conflict”, as Putin warned, is that Germany, France and Poland will also be defeated on the field, and have no “security guarantee” or “assurance” to rely on for themselves, let alone for the Ukraine.
In his Friday speech Putin warned that Ukrainian military operations are failing up and down the line of contact. “What is going on with this so-called counteroffensive? Not quite so: somewhere Ukrainian units manage to reach the first line, somewhere they fail – that’s not the question. The question is that they use so-called strategic reserves, which consist of several components. The first of them is designed to break through the defense, the second is to use troops to consolidate territories, move through the territory. They didn’t achieve their goals at any of the sites – that’s what’s important.”
“Indeed, their losses are very large, about even more than one in ten compared to the Russian army. This is a fact. On technology: every day there is an increase in the loss of this equipment, somewhere now, to date, 186 tanks have been lost by the Ukrainian army and 418 armored vehicles of various classes. I’m not talking about the personnel right now, it’s necessary for the Ministry of Defense to voice itself. But, I repeat, the most important thing is that there is no success in any of the areas. The enemy had no success, as reported by the military.”
What happens next on the battlefield? In the broadcast George Eliason introduces the evidence that, in desperation, the Ukrainian military will attempt to trigger a major nuclear explosion at the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (NPP), causing radiation contamination of the surrounding area, as the Ukrainian destruction of the Kakhovka dam on June 6 attempted to use flood water to the same effect.
For the story of Ukrainian artillery and commando attacks on the Zaporozhye NPP, read this.
For more details on the Kakhovka dam attacks, click. The first segment of the broadcast concludes with breaking news from federal court in Boston, Massachusetts, where the grand jury indictment of Jack Teixeira in the Pentagon Papers case was unsealed and published on June 15. Click to read in full the 10-page document.
For the time being, the Bellingcat intelligence unit and the New York Times, which have been collaborating to convict Teixeira of espionage, have failed to see the dramatic shift in the US prosecutors’ case against the young US Air Force (USAF) national guardsman. According to the Times report, “the evidence presented in the 10-page indictment represents a distillation of the immense trove of secrets Airman Teixeira is accused of taking from computers at an intelligence unit at the Cape Cod air base — and sharing with online friends he was hoping to impress in chat groups on Discord, a social media platform popular with gamers. But it was not immediately clear how many of the vaguely described incidents that underlie the charges had been previously disclosed and which ones were being made public for the first time.”
In fact, the new court filing confirms the Justice Department has decided to downgrade the originally reported charges against Teixeira from espionage on behalf of a foreign state or organisation to “willful retention and transmission of national defense information”.………
Say hi to NATO Finland!
How would we respond if Russia put military and missiles into Mexico?
Did the freely elected government of Mexico seek to join an alliance with Russia?
No they did not.
We have very good relations with Latin American countries.
It is too bad that so many of their people want to sneak in here to enjoy the "La Dolce Viva", but we need to have some border security like other countries. The situation is totally different here than Latin America. They don't fear us like the Eastern Europeans fear Russia. On the contrary, they want to join us, or at least come here and make out financially.
NATO membership is asked by the host country. It is not a bunch of countries in the thrall of the USA. Members join freely. Even so, all NATO countries have to agree. Up to right now, Turkey is saying no to Sweden membership, so Sweden is not part of NATO.
Why do the Russian get to decide who joins a defensive alliance?
But as I said, Finland's admission to NATO brings a thousand mile long NATO border to Russia.
Russia doesn’t have the balls to start a war with NATO.
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As they have been skillfully demonstrating. However, if NATO escalates and starts a war by putting boots on the ground, Vlad will finish it, once and for all.
Vlad has had it with NATO expansion to his borders. Do realize, It is a life and death situation for the Russian people.
We can nuke him too lol. Seriously, though. Hopefully, the war will end so we can save lives.
The Russians will seek to annex the Baltics as soon as they get an opportunity to do so.
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Your sources? Emotions will get you in trouble.Prior to the Ukie war, all parties enjoyed excellent trade relations, commerce, cheap energy, etc…since the 90’s. It appears you have been infected with the Democrat’s Dreaded Russian Hysteria Syndrome….there is a cure, stop listening to western MSM.
They want to enslave Eastern Europe like they did back in the Soviet Union.
The Russian Empire? The Soviet Union? Putin was a KGB Agent? He said he wanted to bring back glory to Russia?
There's a lot of Russian trolls in this forum. I recognize that.
Massive killing of Americans, Australians, South Koreans and above all the innocents of South Vietnam, who had their nation robbed and people massacred by Communist ideology.
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And? The outcome, the US pulled out and abandoned them…after senile Joe’s Afghanistan debacle, I fully expect the same with Ukraine.
Nah. Ukraine is fighting for the survival of their nation. We were trying to westernize Afghanistan so of course we lost that war.
Not looking good for the Ukies last night, more horrendous losses. Video confirmation here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjfANudnZA At about 5:00 mark. Much more video confirmation surfacing ( not on western MSM) as we speak.
That's the reality of a war like this one. It didn't look too good for the Union either after the Battle of Chancellorsville. The Confederates won that skirmish and we all know they didn't win the war.
AND...
That was awful, and to our nations great shame.
I joined the military right after the Communist takeover in 1975, as soon as I graduated high school. While I was delayed enlistment I started a high school campaign to elect Ronald Reagan. I was of course opposed by most of the school age bleeding hearts and especially teachers, but so be it. There are some of us who gave a crap, despite what the long hared, communist loving protesters and democrats wanted.
Biden can’t pull out, because he isn’t in or even foolish enough to fight in the first place.
Neither the USA nor NATO is fighting in Ukraine. Just like the Russians weren’t fighting in Vietnam. The war is being fought by a real, actual country, Ukraine, who has been invaded and brutalized by a bigger country, Russia.
That stops, the Russians leave, and the war is over.
I think that's the ultimate outcome here. But we don't know how long it'll take. And how. The Ukrainians may need a lot more help than they're getting from NATO at this point.
That stops, the Russians leave, and the war is over.
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You believe in Unicorns? I have news for you, Vlad isn’t leaving his provinces, ever. He is effectively demilitarizing the Ukies, and already has deenergized, deindustrialized, and destroyed much of their infrastructure.
The Ukies are a 100 percent welfare state. They are spent.
I can only speak for myself.
I don't think there are any good guys here.
The best solution has always been to bring the sides together and negotiate a peace that both are willing to accept. They don't have to love it, but they have to be willing to accept it.
I think that Putin realizes that the F-16s would put Russia at a serious disadvantage.
Disagree. Putin will eventually go the way that dictators do. He hasn’t won in Ukraine because he cannot.
He certainly wants to, but it has been a stalemate for a year now. No victory except for Ukraine who, despite the entire world watching a little country being attacked by the World’s number 2 military, has hung on. Just staying in the fight is enough for a people who don’t want to be conquered.
The Russians have bitten off more than they can chew. What countries did we demolish in WWII? Germany and Japan. They rebuilt and became economic powerhouses.
Neither of us know the future. Hopium otherwise.
Putin will eventually go the way that dictators do.
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Zelensky is going the way that dictators do….that said, 32 more Ukie tanks dusted last night….the losses are horrendous, why is the collective West so intent on committing suicide?
Again with the Russian subtle almost unworded threats to go nuclear against the West if we do what it takes to push them out of Ukraine. F*ck him and his nuclear threats. Dont believe them anymore and if he’s really crazy enough to use nukes against st the WEST over keeping what he can of Ukraine, well then its boogaloo time. We will see how they can manage that. Enough with the kowtowing to tin ated tyrants whi have nukes. So.e things are existential and taking a stand against
Nuclear blackmail surely qualifies. Wood the founding fathers have chosen to pay the Danegeld or woumd they have rolled the dice again and fought? My 2 cents.
If Trump were in office Putin would not have pulled this maneuver. Weak us presidents are a pox on us, and the world.
I vote that we go ahead and nuke Russia. It’s headed that way because Putin must never be allowed to win. Might as well do it now and get it over with.
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