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Vladimir Putin Agrees to Swap 215 Ukrainian POWs Including Foreign Volunteers, for 55 Russians. What’s up With That?
Red State ^ | 09/21/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 09/21/2022 8:55:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/21/2022 8:55:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That is not a favorable Exchange Rate for Vlad.


2 posted on 09/21/2022 8:58:31 PM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Round Earther

You know why. So much for the stories of Russians surrendering in droves.


3 posted on 09/21/2022 9:12:11 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

i read/heard 215/200 a few hours ago


4 posted on 09/21/2022 9:13:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is what you get when thr false narrative and actions on the ground don’t match and you’re no capable of self reflection. Also what makes the courts in Lughansk “Kangaroo Courts”? How many U.S courts does the author currently Deen to be Kangaroo courts?


5 posted on 09/21/2022 9:15:01 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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Re: Linkage between swap and future events...

Maybe Putin just has 4X times more Ukrainian prisoners than Ukraine has Russian prisoners?

So, Putin is releasing 4X times more prisoners?

Curiously, Viktor Medvedchuk is in handcuffs, which I believe violates the Geneva Convention for POWs.

6 posted on 09/21/2022 9:35:22 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SeekAndFind
Simple. Putin is fighting a war for a civiized world against the uncivilized nihilistic west. It's not a fight against individuals. It's a fight against the power structure that is driving the west to its own perdition.

Only an bunch of idiots would elect to fight to destroy Russia and protect Pacific allies against China at the same time. And freeze to death in the winter.

The western globalist juggernaut is insane.

7 posted on 09/21/2022 9:39:58 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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It was all to get Medvedchuk. Russian cannon fodder itself is worthless.


8 posted on 09/21/2022 9:50:44 PM PDT by Krosan
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Russia needs Medvedchuk like fish needs bicycle. He is a part of the problem. I think Ukraine insisted on trading him for PR reason, and to test water on trading civilian hostages who are Ukrainian nationals for their PoWs. This practice was widespread in 2014.


9 posted on 09/21/2022 10:44:57 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind
Such a shame this utashi croat neanderthal didn't get his neck wrung Vjekoslav Prebeg. A fine looking nazi specimen
10 posted on 09/21/2022 11:03:11 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: SeekAndFind; SpeedyInTexas; dennisw; PIF; UMCRevMom@aol.com; marcusmaximus; Zhang Fei; MalPearce; ..

What’s to understand. It’s the classic carrot/stick approach to negotiating. See how bad and dangerous I am/see how nice and kind I can be. Why don’t we all sit down and negotiate, so I can continue conning you out of what I want. It won’t hurt, you will hardly even notice. Besides, all my loyal well paid trolls and agents keep telling you how badly your countries are failing, how they will freeze this winter, and we are successfully at home and happy.

Actually from various reports, it appears Putin will have a hard time fielding significant numbers of his 300k new fighters. Winter is coming, roads get nasty, vehicles, if they are even available, break down, heavy winter clothes and diet are needed, more weapons will be needed and may no longer be available in quantity. Imagine swarms more soldiers wandering around with inadequate clothing, shelter, and food, feeling useless and in danger because they have no weapons. How many soldiers already deserted from the recent Ukraine push? How many vehicles and armaments were abandoned when they fled? How many more Russian retreats is Ukraine likely to motivate for the same reasons the last action appeared to succeed?


11 posted on 09/21/2022 11:05:18 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority! .)
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ROLFMAO! It is fun to see how the propaganda eats through the brains.


12 posted on 09/21/2022 11:13:40 PM PDT by NorseViking
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13 posted on 09/21/2022 11:34:30 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: SeekAndFind

Typo. They meant 55K: from the articles I keep seeing, half of Ukraine is a POW camp of exhausted or cowardly Russians.


14 posted on 09/21/2022 11:36:33 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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If the trade numbers are accurate then Putin is trying to convince his people how much Russians mean to him. He’s playing to his people, a confidence game of sort— see, I will trade anything to get our people back, trust me, I’ll do anything for you.


15 posted on 09/22/2022 12:02:46 AM PDT by Irenic
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Not really, in terms of PR it is self-defeating, but Putin doesn’t care about PR much.


16 posted on 09/22/2022 12:33:34 AM PDT by NorseViking
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He got his asset Medvechuck back. Putin doesn’t care about his cannon fodder.

Putin is the godfather to Medvechuck’s daughter and funneled billions to him for operations in Ukraine. Medvechuck was designated to be the head of the puppet government according to Putin’s original 3-day-war plan.


17 posted on 09/22/2022 12:34:57 AM PDT by Krosan
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Nah. If Russia really wanted Medvechuck back it’d have negotiated a swap a long time ago when it had all the leverage, was dominating the regions, and before the death penalties had been cast in stone by the DPR.

If Ukraine had done to Medvechuck what the DPR were planning to do to Azov commanders Russia would’ve dined out on it for months. It suited Russia to leave him where he was.

Fact is, Ukraine wasn’t threatening to execute Medvechuck; if anything they were planning to send him to The Hague.

What’s changed all of a sudden is, Putin is running out of people he can trust, and the LDNR figureheads have been exposed as corrupt to the core.

Smart money is on the sham referenda being a box ticking effort to see just how much actual support those guys have.

Anything less than a comprehensive win with a high turnout will give Russia a way out of the conflict: these guys played us, they don’t have the support they said they had, they lied in February, the proxies responsible for atrocities in the Donbas were brought in by Pushilin...


18 posted on 09/22/2022 12:57:02 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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To: Round Earther
That is not a favorable Exchange Rate for Vlad.

Maybe Putin wants to execute these 55 guys. 🤪

19 posted on 09/22/2022 12:59:00 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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I can see it plausible that Russia really wanted Medvechuck and knowing that Ukrainians kept asking for a very high price, that Russia wasn’t willing to pay until now.

Getting the Azovstal defenders back is a tremendous moral boost for Ukrainians.


20 posted on 09/22/2022 1:03:27 AM PDT by Krosan
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