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How Do We FIX This Mess? (Throw the One Ring into the Fire)
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 29 August 2021 | Sundance

Posted on 08/30/2021 4:57:52 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan

Why does government seem to control so much of our lives now? What significant changes happened in the past 15 years that created a social shift and allowed government to influence almost every facet of our activity? Why has the previously ordinary become so complex? Why is it more difficult to be comfortably invisible and just live out the creed of pursuing ‘life, liberty and happiness’? What is behind all this?

We were not sleeping, we were wide awake. Perhaps distracted, yes; but we were wide awake when something shifted. A Fourth Branch of Government was quietly created, and technology allowed the tentacles of the system to touch us. That’s the root of it, and if we take the time to understand how the Fourth Branch originated, questions about this perpetual angst start to make sense.

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Incandescent insight into the cluster that is our government today.

PLEASE read the whole thing before commenting. Gratuitous and OT comments serve no purpose.

1 posted on 08/30/2021 4:57:52 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
The more giveaways, the greater the control.

The amount of govt. freebies has accelerated to the point where it now touches every facet of our lives and we (pejorative) continue to vote for the people who promise us yet more.

It's as simple as that.

2 posted on 08/30/2021 5:02:21 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

What are OT comments?


3 posted on 08/30/2021 5:02:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

The government and media discovered the power of domestic information operations used against our citizens. Maybe assisted by a foreign government to boot.


4 posted on 08/30/2021 5:07:07 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Trump was denied most of his first term, and definitely denied his second term. If he had had 8 years, and perhaps ushered in a protege, I think he might have turned this around and convinced people that Government is the problem, not the solution. But the chance seems to have been lost. I don’t think we can go back now. Going down a dark road, feelin’ bad.


5 posted on 08/30/2021 5:07:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. Weaker, a Jr partner good at losing wars.)
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bump


6 posted on 08/30/2021 5:13:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: BenLurkin

OT =?= off topic


7 posted on 08/30/2021 5:14:36 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

It really is true, that the Senate was supposed to be a “deliberative” branch, comprised of actual statesmen who made their fortunes elsewhere, who were asked (often they WERE actually asked (basically drafted) to devote their last productive years to the service of the countrymen who got them where they are. They weren’t elected but selected by the state governments. It was supposed to be something like the House of Lords in England, except better, without the class and heredity-based baggage.

Now, they are basically somewhat older and wealthier members of the House, who don’t run as often and you can’t get rid of them as quickly. Worse, the longer that they are in office, the more likely that they will stay in office, given our increases (not these days, though!) in lifespan and that they gain more power the longer they stay in and therefore can deliver more goodies to their states.

So, basically, a complete perversion of the system.


8 posted on 08/30/2021 5:16:02 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day)
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In case younger people reading this don’t know what a “statesman” is, this was a type of politician who are now extinct. That’s why “statesperson” never caught on. There never were any.


9 posted on 08/30/2021 5:21:16 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day)
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To: traderrob6

Interesting read. Members of the SSCI committee should remember what happened to Saruman.

The senate was never meant by our founding fathers to be a career.. term limits would have been a beautiful thing. Eventually Leahy, Feinstein, Pelosi et al will meet their maker..and they won’t be heading to the grey havens with Gandalf.

Snowden tried to warn us about the intelligence community...


10 posted on 08/30/2021 5:28:16 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: longfellowsmuse

Need to “Water the Tree of Liberty”. The corruption is deep and world wide, elections (fake) will no longer correct this.


11 posted on 08/30/2021 5:30:35 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: longfellowsmuse

Term limits give the bureaucracy even more power.

The real fix to restore our Republic is to convene a Convention of states with the sole purpose of repealing the 17th Amendment and terminating the senior executive service that would end the uni party


12 posted on 08/30/2021 5:32:47 PM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

We can’t fix it. America is broken beyond repair.


13 posted on 08/30/2021 5:32:59 PM PDT by montag813
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I’d go back to the 17th Amendment to the Constitution.

Deep State has been around for a while and is very patient.

Gee, wonder where they get that from...


14 posted on 08/30/2021 5:33:29 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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I’d go back to the 17th Amendment to the Constitution.

The states gave up too much power to the Feds. The Federal government has one purpose, to defend our citizens and it fails to do that one thing.

15 posted on 08/30/2021 5:40:30 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Article10

So to follow your logic, senators chosen by state legislatures rather than elected based on the goodies they provide would be less tempted to corruption... Not questioning you, just need the basics.


16 posted on 08/30/2021 5:40:37 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Excellent essay. Wishful thinking. We are past the point of "solutions" - that's a rapidly receding image in our collective rear view mirrors. Honest elections and the 4ule of law are dead and buried in an unmarked grave. What remains are consequences. Kinetic consequences.

Change my mind.

17 posted on 08/30/2021 5:42:21 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Second Amendment exists primarily to deal with those who just won't take no for an answer. KTF)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

It is an interesting point Sundance makes, but he misses a more underlying thing. The federal bureaucracy that does these things is utterly incompetent. It’s a conspiracy of the incompetent at every level. They despise competence. Just look at the Afghanistan “retrograde” maneuver, i.e. bugout. It is how incompetent people do things when they decide that what they will not do is anything that Trump would have done. That is not a rational criteria for anything and they have made themselves into an international laughing stock, made fools of by the Taliban who we have been on guard against for 20 years.


18 posted on 08/30/2021 5:46:48 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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I can’t.. I have seen the corruption with my own 2 eyes. I live in one of if not the most conservative state left in the nation. and with my own two eyes I saw one of our senators at an event thrown by a major hospital system, right before a critical obam care vote. This hospital system had invested millions in infrastructure updates to comply with the new law... guess how my “ conservative” senator voted?


19 posted on 08/30/2021 5:49:24 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: BenLurkin

OT: Old Testament


20 posted on 08/30/2021 5:52:06 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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