Stanford Study Results: Facemasks are Ineffective to Block Transmission of COVID-19 and Actually Can Cause Health Deterioration and Premature Death

TGP ^ | April 19, 2021 | Joe Hoft

[xzins]

Absolutely.

They shut down their own citizens and let interlopers run rampant.

How sane is that?

[Big Red Badger]

Phony Tony,
Death Angel.

[Organic Panic]

OBEY!!!

[FreedomNotSafety]

Hoft is irrelevant because he cannot write an accurate headline or summary. So why not just post the original source?

The orginal studies of studies by someone who cannot even understand how a mask works is worthless. Adding Hoft the the mix makes it not only worthless but idiotic as well.

[heavy metal]

it’s blatant hypocrisy...

our feral government’s actions prove that this so called “virus” is a ploy...

there’s a lot of people out there that are too busy arguing and fighting one another to see it...

[Bayard]

I’ve read stories how medical science is conncting things like alzheimers and respiratory illnesses to bad dental hygiene.

Not a doctor, but I can believe that.

[444Flyer]

8/20

“Dentists say ‘mask mouth’ can cause serious health complications, including strokes”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

8/20

“‘Mask Mouth’- a novel threat to oral health in the COVID era – Dr Pooja Muley”

https://in.dental-tribune.com/news/mask-mouth-a-novel-threat-to-oral-health-in-the-covid-era/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene

3/30/21

“Face Masks Reduce Retinal Vessel Density”

https://www.reviewofoptometry.com/news/article/face-masks-reduce-retinal-vessel-density

10/9/20

“Masks, false safety and real dangers, Part 2”

https://pdmj.org/papers/masks_false_safety_and_real_dangers_part2/

[444Flyer]

"Shut up and wear the oxgyen deprivation device!" ~ Fraudchi and Co.

[xzins]

I’ve followed Hoft for years. I think he has done an exceptionally good job in the face of heavy opposition.

As far as being a writer, I imagine he does a lot of it. It’s hard to churn out thousands of words a day AND run an organization with deadlines.

I’m impressed with what he does.

[444Flyer]

[xzins]

So, masks aren’t effective against dry wall dust???

Or smoke, either. I can tell you that from personal experience.

[metmom]

Ping

[bagster]

[IrishBrigade]

‘The orginal studies of studies by someone who cannot even understand how a mask works is worthless’

rather than calling people idiots, why don’t you just tell us how the masks work...?

[bagster]

The orginal studies of studies by someone who cannot even understand how a mask works is worthless. Adding Hoft the the mix makes it not only worthless but idiotic as well.

"When the facts are against you, attack the messenger".

~ Bagster

[brookwood]

“This isn’t even a study. It’s straight up BS”
AGREED
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987720333028

In the third paragraph with heading “Hypothesis”, the author Baruch Vainshelboim – credentials below indicating a connection with Stanford-
Address: VA Palo Alto Health Care System, Cardiology 111C, 3801 Miranda Ave, Palo Alto, CA 94304, United States.
baruch.v1981@gmail.com
Cardiology Division, Veterans Affairs Palo Alto Health Care System/Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA, United States

… says this -

“Given the fact that asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times higher than the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate is considerably less than 1% [5]. This was confirmed by the head of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases from US stating, “”the overall clinical consequences of COVID-19 are similar to those of severe seasonal influenza”” [5], having a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1% [5], [6], [7], [8].”

The amazing thing about the link to reference number 5 is that that article was co-written by Anthony Fauci. It would be amazing if Fauci said the fatality rate for Covid was .1%, given that .4% of New York City died of Covid. In Europe and the US about .2% of the entire population has already died of Covid. So even assuming everyone in the US, Italy, France, UK Spain, Poland, etc. has already had Covid – which is obviously absurd – THE CASE FATALITY RATE MUST BE AT LEAST .2%, NOT .1% A more reasonable assumption, for example that 1/3 of Americans have “had Covid”, gives a fatality rate of .6%, or SIX TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU. In fact less than 10% of Americans have actually been diagnosed with Covid, and the fatality rate for those diagnosed is about 2% -TWENTY TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU, although it is now going down because all the old people have been vaccinated. Yet “scientists” at Stanford are still pedaling the .1% figure, although they surely know it isn’t based in reality. It is simply a lie, and we must wonder why they are telling it. Who is helped by spreading this garbage from Stanford?
And on top of that the actual quote from reference number 5 is this –

“This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.”

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&hl=en&as_sdt=0,7&cluster=4190197419714426109

Notice the difference between saying the “clinical consequences are similar to those of severe seasonal flu” and saying “This suggests [but obviously doesn’t prove] that … Covid 19 may ultimately prove to be more akin to [ i.e. closer to] …a severe seasonal influenza.. [with .1% case fatality rate] rather than to a disease similar to SARS or MERS which have had case fatality rates of 9% to 10% and 36%, respectively.”

All he (Fauci) is saying is that even a 1% fatality rate is closer to a .1% fatality rate than it is to a 10% fatality rate. And yes 1% is closer to .1% than it is to 10%. But its still 10 times worse than .1%, Covid is 10 times more fatal than the seasonal flu.

Also, thankfully others crushed the author
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/16/diamond-and-silk/medical-hypotheses-journal-article-lacks-evidence-/

[GOPJ]

The amazing thing about the link to reference number 5 is that that article was co-written by Anthony Fauci. It would be amazing if Fauci said the fatality rate for Covid was .1%, given that .4% of New York City died of Covid. In Europe and the US about .2% of the entire population has already died of Covid. So even assuming everyone in the US, Italy, France, UK Spain, Poland, etc. has already had Covid – which is obviously absurd – THE CASE FATALITY RATE MUST BE AT LEAST .2%, NOT .1% A more reasonable assumption, for example that 1/3 of Americans have “had Covid”, gives a fatality rate of .6%, or SIX TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU. In fact less than 10% of Americans have actually been diagnosed with Covid, and the fatality rate for those diagnosed is about 2% -TWENTY TIMES THAT OF SEVERE FLU, although it is now going down because all the old people have been vaccinated. Yet “scientists” at Stanford are still pedaling the .1% figure, although they surely know it isn’t based in reality. It is simply a lie, and we must wonder why they are telling it. Who is helped by spreading this garbage from Stanford?

The medical establishment needs to give it to us straight... the good the bad and the ugly.

[GBA]

Sooner or later the truth often comes out, but usually it’s too late for the political arguments and the damage politicians do with their misinformed voters.

Remember all of those arguments about how ineffective and potentially harmful constant mask wearing can be with those who “know” that wearing a mask is “settled science” for covid protection?

And they still Karen US into compliance with their fears and intimidation based on their “settled science” of misinformation.

[FreedomNotSafety]

Check the thread it has already been covered,

[RC one]

Case Fatality has some utility in the middle of a pandemic but one cannot use midpandemic or earlier CFR data to make a sweeping generalization about a disease’s overall mortality. Once the pandemic is over, you can do that but not until then. There are way too many variables built into midpandemic and earlier CFRs. It only serves as a snapshot in time but it frequently gets misused to make a statement like Covid has a .1% fatality rate”.