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To: White Lives Matter
Trump didn't want to do anything about it before the election, even though he knew it was coming, and he wasn't ready for it on the day after the election. That's why he lost.

I.e., Trump was an incompetent outwitted bungler and his negligence cost us our freedom. He should not be trusted with further national office.

IMO Trump's negligence here will be more consequential than Stalin's refusal to believe, or let his military prepare for, the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union in June 1941. Trump's incompetence didn't produce the immediate awful consequences Stalin's incompetence did, but IMO the downstream consequences of Trump's failure will be far more awful than Stalin's.

40 posted on 02/28/2021 4:57:35 PM PST by Thud
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To: Thud

What was Trump supposed to do specifically before the election to stop the steal?


47 posted on 02/28/2021 5:02:17 PM PST by White Lives Matter
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To: Thud

IMO you are full of bovine excrement.


57 posted on 02/28/2021 5:17:09 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Thud

The states set their election laws and his hands were tied. Get off of blaming Trump. They tried to stop Pennsylvania prior to the election and USSC sent it back. Read the constitution. The Rats used the states run their elections to the Max. Congress did not do squat either.


70 posted on 02/28/2021 5:34:34 PM PST by lone star annie ( )
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To: Thud

Yeah. President Trump wanted to do something!....

But it was a States issue!

Stop being a dumb-ass


82 posted on 02/28/2021 6:29:49 PM PST by MountainDad (A strong man stands up for himself. A stronger man stands up for others. Support your local militia.)
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To: Thud

,,that’s Why he lost.
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94 posted on 02/28/2021 8:22:57 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: Thud

Spot on (sadly).


95 posted on 02/28/2021 8:31:03 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Thud

I am going to make a couple of assumptions about your comments at #40 and then offer my own opinion. First I assume you are being succinctly blunt to make your point forcefully and not that you have no detail to your argument and opinion. Second I assume you have some nuance to this argument if you were to discuss it in detail and that it is not barstool know-it-all due to your specific knowledge of government.

If that is correct I offer that I never assumed Trump to be other than what he was, an outsider businessman that said he could get to the heart of government better than the career politicians and stay focused on what the constituents felt was good government, He did not say he had connections and a long history to bring a great large team on with him, like Reagan did from his California days. He did not say that he knew the consequences of burning every bridge to other Republicans with his Primary strategy — that too making his administration weak due to appointees that didn’t function. He cannot however be blamed for not thinking the state legislatures would fail to act at all as wholesale election fraud went unanswered — it had never occurred on this scale.

We, those over 40 are as much to be blamed as Trump — we took little interest in government since the sixties. We were sickened by our leftist brothers whom we thought were fringe and not that strong and we lived our careers, tried to build a good retirement and have good families and we let the politicians be the petty crooks and functionaries they were going to always be. We didn’t ride down any escalator and announce to the press that we would waste half our fortune to show how average citizens could bash the swamp.

I think your point is imperfectly made if you lay this all at the foot of the aggrandizing developer that tried to set his country right. Would the same have come about (although at a different timing) if Jeb had won? Hillary?

Having been a General Contractor my whole life I can’t stand most developers and certainly not the Art of the Deal types like Trump but he did a much more honest and better job than I anticipated. This outcome was ordained by the criminality and leftism in the Swamp of our government, not by Trump’s weaknesses in not being able to stop it. AND also laid at our feet, the average citizen.


96 posted on 02/28/2021 9:11:30 PM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: Thud

rump didn’t want to do anything about it before the election, even though he knew it was coming, and he wasn’t ready for it on the day after the election. That’s why he lost.
“I.e., Trump was an incompetent outwitted bungler and his negligence cost us our freedom. He should not be trusted with further national office.
IMO Trump’s negligence here will be more consequential than Stalin’s refusal to believe, or let his military prepare for, the Nazi attack on the Soviet Union in June 1941. Trump’s incompetence didn’t produce the immediate awful consequences Stalin’s incompetence did, but IMO the downstream consequences of Trump’s failure will be far more awful than Stalin’s. “

What a truly imbecilic post!!


106 posted on 03/01/2021 5:41:35 AM PST by ohioman
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