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P-75 Eagle: The Worst Fighter Aircraft Of World War II?
19FortyFive ^ | 2/15/2021 | Peter Suicu

Posted on 02/16/2021 6:03:34 AM PST by Onthebrink

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To: Alas Babylon!

Eh. For its time, the Swordfish was about the best they could do. It is amazing that they were still using it at the start of the war.


21 posted on 02/16/2021 7:00:25 AM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: Alas Babylon!; Fresh Wind

Hey, the Fairey Swordfish took out the steering gear of the German Battleship Bismark, allowing the British to sink her. Not too shabby for a fixed-gear biplane.


22 posted on 02/16/2021 7:17:27 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

Hey, the Fairey Swordfish took out the steering gear of the German Battleship Bismark, allowing the British to sink her. Not too shabby for a fixed-gear biplane.


It is never the technology, but the men behind the technology.


23 posted on 02/16/2021 7:21:07 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Hey, the Stringbag was an awesome plane. The Bismark’s gunners had problems shooting at it because it was too slow...


24 posted on 02/16/2021 7:47:11 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

battle of midway.

initial marine fighters to engage the japanese bombing attacks on the atoll were flying buffalos, I believe.

https://warbirdforum.com/midway.htm


25 posted on 02/16/2021 8:33:04 AM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

...and it did some damage to bismarck, too.

damaged the rudder with a well-placed torpedo, IIRC


26 posted on 02/16/2021 8:35:07 AM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: QualityMan

True. I carelessly missed which comment you were referring to, and thought you meant the P-75. Sorry about that.


27 posted on 02/16/2021 8:36:08 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Alas Babylon!
The Japs had cool prototypes too:


28 posted on 02/16/2021 8:39:30 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Oh, I’m not saying the Fairey Swordfish was a bad plane, just the name is worse than Buffalo, imho.


29 posted on 02/16/2021 9:13:34 AM PST by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

The 21 Fairy Swordfish torpedo bombers took out the Italian battleship fleet in the first aircraft carrier only attack in Nov. 1940 at Taranto. The entire battle ship and cruiser fleet was harbored together, much like the US Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor a year later. Italian losses included their most modern battleship. The remainder of the Italian fleet was never again a factor in the Med after the Taranto attack.

Those supposedly obsolete biplanes with a top speed of 139 mph achieved this in two sorties, crippling the Italian naval presence in the Med for the duration of the war giving the British critical Med theater superiority. Control which assured Rommel's resupply chain destruction directly contributing to his defeat in North Africa....not bad for a bunch of slow grampa type planes.

30 posted on 02/16/2021 9:23:16 AM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

eh, my bad for not being more clear.

cheers!


31 posted on 02/16/2021 10:15:15 AM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: central_va

nippon knockoff of the DO-335, I think?


32 posted on 02/16/2021 10:15:49 AM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: rlmorel

that one you saw is the only one left

they only built two, and one of them crashed after getting nicked in flight by an escorting starfighter.

the valkyrie taught the USAF, and NASA, much about + mach aerodynamics, and a host of other stuff.

cool concept..obsoleted by SA-2 systems by the time it actually flew.


33 posted on 02/16/2021 10:18:57 AM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: QualityMan
Yes...I am an aviation buff, and that accident is in aviation lore, for sure. Tragic.

But man...what a boss looking plane!

You might like this link, I stumbled across it this morning:

XB-70 Virtual Cockpit

There are enough knobs, buttons, dials, and levers to keep even the most anal aviation geek occupied!

34 posted on 02/16/2021 12:15:11 PM PST by rlmorel ("I’d rather enjoy a risky freedom than a safe servitude." Robby Dinero, USMC Veteran, Gym Owner)
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To: rlmorel

i am an airplane junkie, too.

the addiction started innocently enough about 50 years ago with ww2 warbirds, progressed to jets over the years...thuds, phantoms, eagles, etc, but I still go back home to the butcher bird from bremen most frequently. :)

I will check out the link. thanks for the share.


35 posted on 02/16/2021 12:50:49 PM PST by QualityMan ( I got nuthin...)
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for the link!

Note: the clam shell ejection seat instructions are high on the center console.


36 posted on 02/16/2021 1:44:59 PM PST by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: White Lives Matter

Parks group didn’t fly with wingmen... it was an every man for himself fur-ball.


37 posted on 02/16/2021 1:51:28 PM PST by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Chainmail

The Finns might disagree with you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_aces_from_Finland


38 posted on 02/16/2021 2:03:07 PM PST by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Chainmail

True for everyone except the Finns and the Dutch East Indies Air Force.


39 posted on 02/16/2021 2:17:52 PM PST by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: xkaydet65; Grey182

Imagine how much better they would have done with the F4F instead.


40 posted on 02/16/2021 3:01:24 PM PST by Chainmail (Remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence)
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