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To: zeestephen
Send me the statute or the court decision that allows Pence to exclude certain Electoral Votes. I will immediately apologize and retract my original post.

From the 12th amendment:

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;-The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted"

Why are the procedures spelled out in such detail? And what was the intent? Is it “ceremonial” as cynically described by Pence and his Democrat masters? NO, THE 12TH AMENDMENT IS CLEARLY ESTABLISHING A CHAIN OF CUSTODY! If the chain of custody is broken any where along the way, the votes contained in the envelope are invalid legally and constitutionally! The final arbiter in that chain of custody is the President of the Senate... in this case Mike Pence. He is the one responsible for determining that the chain has not been broken. If he determines that there is a problem anywhere along the chain then he can determine whether the votes in the envelope to be opened are legally and constitutionally valid. That is why he is included in this process. That is why the process is spelled out in great detail. Nothing in the constitution or the 12th amendment is included for ceremonial purposes!

I of course am paraphrasing from a number of constitutional scholars who have studied the text and supporting documentation as to why the words were written the way that they were. I hope that they will forgive me if I have repeated anything incorrectly!

63 posted on 01/08/2021 11:07:39 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15
What chain of custody was broken?

Every state has certified their Electoral Votes.

What you are claiming is that the Vice President has the final authority to certify or de-certify all the Electoral Votes sent to the U.S. Senate.

If that authority is in the 12th Amendment, or in the Electoral Count Act, I do not see it.

68 posted on 01/08/2021 7:50:23 PM PST by zeestephen
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