Posted on 12/17/2020 8:39:59 AM PST by Paul Mahesh
This is so stupid...
If blasting has to be done, the natives who stole and wiped out the previous natives, and the ones before that, didn’t burry much there.
Natives back then would not have even had a spade or pick axe.
Regardless, from the experience of an Army buddy of mine, who is on two tribal counsels in Arizona, if the tribal Counsels get enough money, all of a sudden the spirits around the “sacred burial grounds” are okay with development.
When which Roosevelt do 50 ft strip? Reference???
Happened to family think.
This is the formerly Papago Indian Tribe. They are related to the Mexican tribes, peaceful and sedentary. They were being exterminated by the inviding Apache. White man arrival saved them from certain extermination.
They now changed the name to Tohono O’odham (I guess their original name). I talked to some of the tribe members on few occasions, privately, they actually prefer to be called Papago. They hate being called Tohono!
So, “sacred” is a thing if it is about a hundred American Indians, but not a thing if millions of parents object to pansexual indoctrination in schools.
Alas, the 50 feet was read somewhere on FR. it was wrong.
its 60 feet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roosevelt_Reservation
The Roosevelt Reservation is the 60-foot (18 m)-wide strip of land owned by the United States Federal Government along the United States side of the United States–Mexico Border in three of the four border states. Federal and tribal lands make up 632 miles (1,017 km), or approximately 33 percent, of the nearly 2,000 miles (3,200 km) total. Private and state-owned lands constitute the remaining 67 percent of the border, most of which is located in Texas.[1]
In 1907, Theodore Roosevelt in a Presidential Proclamation (35 Stat. 2136) established the reservation in order to keep all public lands along the border in California, Arizona, and New Mexico “free from obstruction as a protection against the smuggling of goods between the United States and Mexico”.[2][3][4] Texas was excluded because Texas retained all public lands upon the Texas annexation and admittance as a state, much of which has been sold over the years to private parties.
Construction of the Trump wall along the border in California, Arizona, and New Mexico was expedited since the reservation reduced the need to acquire additional private property.[5]
Interesting. There were a lot of inter-tribal wars that we stopped. There are probably more “Original peoples” alive now than before Columbus.
Navajo and Apache (they are related, they understand each others) are actually from warrior tribes from north. They invaded rather peaceful Arizona tribes like Hopi, Havasupai, Pima, Maricopa, Mohave, Tohono and others and intended to eradicate them. The arrival of the Spanish slowed the extermination as Spaniard build missions which provided sanctuaries for them. The missions were still under attacks and sometime wiped out. Finally the US took over Arizona and the intertribal warfare was eventually stopped.
Even now, there is still a lot of bad blood between the original Arizona tribes and the new arrivals.
There were likely more natives in America before Columbus, but not because they were exterminated by evil white man.
The worst problem Natives got from Columbus were the diseases. Smallpox, Measles, Tuberculosis decimated natives. They were actually spreading ahead of Europeans. It is not widely know, but Pizarro in Peru faced dying civilization, which was already whipped out by smallpox. So were the natives of Western US.
Unfortunately nobody really could help them in this area.
Thanks. Know land owned by family bifurcated by border line in 1891. Some in U.s. vacant. Rest in Mexico with house, out buildings and well. Knew U.S. land traveled by BP, but thought govt got more than 60 ft. Hmmm.
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There are no “native” Americans. We’re all immigrants, some just got here earlier than others.
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