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Pollak: The Atlantic Hit Piece Is a Hint of Democrats’ Orwellian Future
breitbart ^ | 09/06.2020 | Joel B Pollak

Posted on 09/06/2020 11:30:14 AM PDT by DFG

The Atlantic hit piece on President Donald Trump last week used four anonymous sources to allege that he had disparaged dead World War I soldiers two years ago. Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin then claimed to have “confirmed” parts of the story — though not its main allegation — based on two anonymous sources.

The entire story failed to meet basic journalistic standards. But it is a sign of things to come — particularly if Democrats win in November, which is the Atlantic‘s goal.

Two, or even four, anonymous sources can be used to claim absolutely anything. The Atlantic described them as “four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day.”

Notably, we are not told that they personally heard Trump say what the Atlantic alleges he said — they just have “knowledge of the discussion.” Someone who has “knowledge” of a discussion is a second-hand source, or worse. The point is there is no way to know if the sources are credible, or if the story is just made up.

It turns out that we do actually have some very good historical sources that dispute the Atlantic story. These include the 11 eyewitnesses who have gone on the record to deny the president said what the Atlantic alleged, but they also include other sources.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 1984; atlantic; jeffreygoldberg; johnbolton; orwell; sarahhuckabeesanders; stevejobswidow; theatlantic; trump
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1 posted on 09/06/2020 11:30:14 AM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

It wont stop til election day..they are planning more “Surprises” next week..this is ALL about knowing they cant win in November..otherwise why bother..I mean if Biden were really up 15 points whats the point of even doing this, because they are NOT winning and they know it


2 posted on 09/06/2020 11:33:22 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: DFG
Again with taking the bait and trying to prove a negative.

There's plenty of video evidence out there of demonicRATS speaking ill of military veterans. Everything from John Kerry of accusing Vietnam vets torturing innocent people to honoring traitors like Bowe Bergdahl.

3 posted on 09/06/2020 11:34:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: DFG

Billionaire stock holders, such as Laurene Powell Jobs, need a President Harris, err, President Biden, in order to continue their windfall from China.

They can’t get that with a president that stands for America.

The irony is not lost that the party that claims to stand up for the working class, stand against multi-national corporations, and stand against the oppression of workers and exploitation of labor is essentially acting as a surrogate for multi-national corporations that exploit working class laborers.

Scarier yet, they also own the corporate media that will tear down anyone who stands in their way.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3881539/posts?page=3


4 posted on 09/06/2020 11:42:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (11/3/2020! VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!!!)
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To: DFG

The Ministry of Propaganda


5 posted on 09/06/2020 11:42:28 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: DFG

The democrat party is filled with people who have no solutions to real problems. They sling mud at anyone who disagrees with them and in their way to more power.


6 posted on 09/06/2020 11:43:03 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: DFG
Wikipedia - Jennifer Griffin

In September 2020, an uproar arose after Griffin, citing anonymous sources, confirmed key details of an article in The Atlantic [4] that reported President Donald Trump had characterized veterans and fallen American soldiers as "losers" and "suckers." The report had been confirmed by the Associated Press and The Washington Post. Trump and several aides who were present at the time denied the report, with the president and others calling for Griffin to resign. Numerous reporters, including some from Fox News, defended Griffin's integrity. She stood by her report, characterizing her sources as "unimpeachable."[5][6][7][8]

Sad to see Jennifer Griffin caught up in this mess. Cross another 1 off the FNC line-up. Whichever Murdoch brother is still in charge at FOX, he must be proud.

7 posted on 09/06/2020 11:44:48 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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But Biden and the media has taken it run with it... INCLUDING FOX. I tried to watch FOX this morning and ALL of their programming that I saw was playing clips of Biden being angry about Trumps statements about dead WWI troops being suckers and losers as if it were a true statement. Then FOX emphasized a slow recovering economy when it is faster than any one expected; jobs added and decreased unemployment. Then there was the black bald headed woman Biden campaign spokes person trashing Trump and how Biden was the only choice that could save the country.

I just flipped back to FOX now and this is what is on. Biden is still on saying Trump should apologize for his statement... Still talking about it... Real clear politics saying that the use of unnamed sources were bad and not good journalism. The Federalist guy trashes the story even thought his father in law was McCain. Then play the Bolton clip saying Trump never said anything like that. Then Jessica Tarlov Trashes Trump and says unnamed sources are valid just look at deep throat.


8 posted on 09/06/2020 11:49:36 AM PDT by DOC44
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But it is a sign of things to come — particularly if Democrats win in November, which is the Atlantic‘s goal.

That's a silly take.

Multiple informed people have given this story to The Atlantic, the NYT, the WaPo, Fox News and the AP. These people may well be trying to undermine Trump but the fact that they're doing this is in itself news.

These news organizations have no choice but to report it.

9 posted on 09/06/2020 11:50:44 AM PDT by semimojo
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“These news organizations have no choice but to report it.”

They have no choice to report stories from unnamed sources? Well it that is true then it should go both ways unless there is bias in journalism and journalist. duh.. but it will be only one sided.

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10 posted on 09/06/2020 11:55:46 AM PDT by DOC44
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To: DFG

Emmanuel Goldstein, Enemy of the People. You may recognize him from the George Orwell novel “1984”, the dissident and banished gadfly that, like Trotsky, continually sniped at and disparaged the Soviet Union of Lenin and Stalin. But he was no less of a communist for all that, just not the “right kind” of communist.

Time out for the Two-Minute Hate. Let’s pile on Atlantic.


11 posted on 09/06/2020 11:56:13 AM PDT by alloysteel ("The Best Is Yet to Come "- theme of 2020 RNC)
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To: semimojo

The Atlantic won’t last another year or two. Nor will the other news outlets which report lies like this one.

They won’t be missed.


12 posted on 09/06/2020 11:58:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

What makes you think they’ll stop after election day?


13 posted on 09/06/2020 12:06:19 PM PDT by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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To: DFG

Notice how this hit piece came out just when N.C. sent out 669,000 ballots. Time for Trump’s campaign to slam Biden and how he hoot Beau no show jobs in the Ukraine and China.


14 posted on 09/06/2020 12:09:52 PM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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To: libertylover

If Trump wins, they wont, they will just set everything on fire


15 posted on 09/06/2020 12:13:26 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: semimojo

Lol


16 posted on 09/06/2020 12:20:39 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: alloysteel

“Time out for the Two-Minute Hate. Let’s pile on Atlantic.”

You anti-Trumpers come out like cockroaches.


17 posted on 09/06/2020 12:22:13 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: DFG
"Notably, we are not told that they personally heard Trump say what the Atlantic alleges he said — they just have “knowledge of the discussion.”"

Now where have I heard this before?....


18 posted on 09/06/2020 12:47:54 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: DFG; All
Nolte makes a great point that the charges come from people with knowledge of the discussions, but not that they witnessed the discussion, which means its 2nd hand.

Similarly, Glenn Greenwald (no fan of DjT) warns that Fox's Jennifer Griffin "confirmed" nothing. Confirmed would mean she knows who the unnamed sources are, and heard the same 2nd hand knowledge from them, which she did not.

She reports she has heard some say things that compliment the meme. Terribly weak stuff.

And I maintain that a statement such as:"what did these soldiers get out of it ?"could be taken crudely; as in what a waste, or it could be taken admirably, as in selfless. I put any such accusing Trump pronouncements in the later category.

19 posted on 09/06/2020 12:52:58 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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To: semimojo; All

On the contrary, because a video / ad was ready and aired on MSNBC within hours it is clear this attack has been prepared for months and saved for the campaign stretch.

It would not be physically possible to assemble all the elements of the hit piece overnight and get it on MSNBC by early the next day.

More likely than not, some anti-Trump group had it in the can, but needed a reason to release it, which the Atlantic provided. It should remind us of the Russian pee-tape, which was held until Comey informed DjT of its existence and leaked to CNN giving it creditabilty and a reason to put the pee-tape in the public discussion.

The video / ad was constructed and presented to Goldberg and the Atlantic with the understanding they needed an excuse to release it. Goldberg obliged.


20 posted on 09/06/2020 1:05:02 PM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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