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Trump Backs Off Red Flag Gun Laws (for Now)
Intellectual Conservative ^ | Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Posted on 08/19/2019 12:29:04 PM PDT by Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

President Trump came to terms with an important constitutional realization: Gun confiscation laws, commonly called Red Flag laws, won’t work to reduce gun violence. The President is now backing away from his earlier statements supporting more gun control at the federal level – for now, at least.

When asked how he’s handling expanded gun control, Trump responded with a suddenly pro-gun tone: "So, Congress is working on that. They have bipartisan committees working on background checks and various other things. And we'll see. I don't want people to forget that this is a mental health problem. I don't want them to forget that, because it is. It's a mental health problem. And as I say -- and I said the other night in New Hampshire; we had an incredible evening -- I said: It's the people that pull the trigger. It's not the gun that pulls the trigger."

The President previously called for implementing federal Red Flag laws that allow any individual – friend, family, or stranger – to report gun owners to the authorities for temporary gun confiscation. Under most states’ Red Flag laws, any gun owner can be reported by nearly anybody else with little qualification or evidence.

Red Flag Gun Laws Don’t Work

Most Red Flag laws also disregard the presumption of innocence, forcing gun owners who have been reported to give up their guns with no warrant, no due process, nor any day in court. States like California have already put these unconstitutional laws into practice with largely mixed results. When asked why such laws are so effective, San Diego City Attorney Maria Elliot remarked, “We don’t have to wait for a crime to be committed.”

That sounds an awful lot like a judicial official supporting a law that ignores the 4th Amendment – and this official is apparently bragging about it, no less. For all the fear-mongering and emotional campaigning, Republics and Democrats alike appear to avoid the data which says Red Flag laws simply don’t work. Research shows that these laws do not reduce or eliminate gun violence or mass shootings. So why bother passing them in the first place? Because anti-gunners and Democrats want to disarm the American people.

Democrats are Chipping Away at the Second Amendment

Even though these laws show no reduction in gun violence of any kind, Democrats and anti-gunners support them. These laws remove firearms from law-abiding individuals. Those who refuse or attempt to protect their rights are imprisoned or killed. It’s a win-win for anti-gun rhetoric. And laws like these are just one of the many ways Democrats are killing off access to the Second Amendment across the country. California now requires gun owners submit to a background check just to buy ammo. Chicago and New York City now charge individuals just to buy a gun. It can cost as much as $900 to buy a weapon in Chicago, and up to $140 in New York City. Washington’s I-1639 bill now restricts gun purchase to anyone over 21. Federally, Bill H. R. 7115 would ban gun-making kits and 80 lower receivers – receiver blanks used to legally build a gun at home.

Democrats in The Know Say New Gun Control Unlikely

Data doesn’t matter though, with gun control rallies being held across the country. Republicans and Democrats alike are puffing their chests at Trump’s latest stance on the issue. Sources in the White House and Congress say that if no legislation is passed by September, no new gun bills will be signed before the 2020 election. Democrats familiar with the conversations and sources close to the President are skeptical that any efforts will succeed.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; redflaglaws; secondamendment; wafflerinchief
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

The red flag BS could have put a nail in the 2020 coffin.


21 posted on 08/19/2019 2:13:47 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Vaquero

They want to take guns from law abiding citizens—while criminals can have all the guns they want.

That is the agenda.

Centralized power is the end game—lying and propaganda is the primary tactic.


22 posted on 08/19/2019 2:14:49 PM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
...there is no evidence to support the latter. At least, not in the U.S.

Not yet. But soon.

People have already been killed during enforcement of the Red Flag Laws in various States. But they must have deserved it because they were "crazy extremists".

The Democrats are openly announcing their intentions. And they are quite serious about forcibly disarming the general population using "public safety" as the excuse. We are one bad election away from the next incremental advance in this effort.

23 posted on 08/19/2019 3:03:24 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
Travis Noonan says: "It's a mental health problem."

I sure hope this does not bring forth more use of psychoactive drugs to "cure" the mental health problem. Actually, perhaps reopening asylums to restrain obvious bad actors might be a better answer, cheaper in the long run than letting them run loose and homeless on the street.

24 posted on 08/19/2019 3:04:23 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

But the ROLCONs swore that unlike the last 20 times Trump made a vague noise in a leftward direction if the Congress acted and attached so something Dims would never support This Time Really he was going to fold and it’s time to abandon ship!

Who can you trust if not your friendly neighborhood NeverTrumper “true conservative”?


25 posted on 08/19/2019 3:10:26 PM PDT by No.6
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith
”animated”
26 posted on 08/19/2019 4:02:38 PM PDT by MAAG (Look up, for your redemption draws...)
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To: Zathras

Bill Mitchell not coming out of this very well either.


27 posted on 08/19/2019 4:04:28 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Black_Rifle_Gunsmith

Imagine that.

All the hyperventilating by those who think Trump betrayed them all for naught.

I’ve learned to wait and see. He knows how to manipulate people. He’s ALWAYS got a plan.


28 posted on 08/19/2019 4:09:45 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Cobra64

I don’t like anyone who repeatedly tries to abandon the rule of law and give our country to fraudulently documented foreigners.


29 posted on 08/19/2019 4:14:02 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: cgbg

Absolutely


30 posted on 08/19/2019 4:58:57 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Trumpnado2016
"POTUS has no say over what goes into the Legislation. He gets to say yes or no. Sign or veto that’s it."

Horse puckey. He rewrote the 1934 National Firearms Act when he had the bump-fire stock ruled an NFA device.

31 posted on 08/19/2019 6:25:41 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Vaquero
"Scumocrats, don’t want gun control. They want Marxist people control."

The Red flag laws (which themselves are an abrogation of Due Process) were dreamt up by the same people who proposed the early release from prison for gun crime felons.


https://www.conservativereview.com/news/people-pushed-early-release-gun-felons-now-want-take-guns-without-due-process/

32 posted on 08/19/2019 6:28:45 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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