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Lawsuit outs Ellen Ratner as source for Seth Rich information
LawFlog ^ | July 15, 2019 | Ty Clevenger

Posted on 07/15/2019 10:04:01 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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To: gr8eman

Well, I read through most of it now. It is a rather odd document with many spelling errors of the names of people involved.

Still, I am left with two key questions...

He seems to have Butowsky’s chat messages with Ratner that would prove his claims regarding her conversation with Assange. Someone should ask her?

Though in the end, that would only confirm that Assange alleged that the two Rich brothers were his sources for the leaks. Assange has at least twice publically hinted at that Seth Rich was a source anyway, so I am not sure what this would accomplish. Wikileaks or Assange would be in possession of the Seth Rich emails which could prove such a connection you would think, but...yeah..I am rambling.

The second thing that struck me is that the local Fox affiliate still has the original story up and “stand by their report”. Their reporter, who according to the official story then must be a liar seems to have made no retraction either and still works for that channel.

Other than that it goes into a lot of material regarding the investigation that has been posted on here before regarding FBI involvement and denials of involvement, strange timeline regarding when the DNC closed down their servers (several weeks after they claimed to have known to have been hacked), as well the claims by some security experts that according to the metadata it would have been impossible to have transferred the data in the timeframe claimed and that a device such as a thumbdrive must have been used.

Oh, lastly. We might find out more on July 22 when the FBI has to respond to a FOIA request.

Ooops. Did a bit more research. It is indeed a strange story. This from a CNN report. It is even implied that Wheeler was in love with that local reporter and therefor spilled the beans to her...

“No one knows,” the person said. “This is like a huge question mark internally. This is a giant mystery.”

https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/10/media/seth-rich-fox-news-timeline/index.html

Have a good one.


41 posted on 07/15/2019 12:25:16 PM PDT by Eurotwit (FRexit? No. AdiEU. - Loud Mime)
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To: Eurotwit

Well, their son Aaron, Seth’s brother was also involved in leaking emails. Maybe they were told he would be killed as well.


42 posted on 07/15/2019 12:48:55 PM PDT by Engedi (ui)
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To: Magnatron

Wow. Been doing more research and they apparently have Wheeler
on secret recording talking about the case, and the statements about Aaron are rather astonishing.

He seemed to have gone out of his way to make sure no investigations or even questions were asked about emails...

Aaron, according to Wheeler, had Seth’s computer, but refused to hand it over or talk about it. Sounds like Aaron really did not want anyone to solve the case...

Not too strange perhaps, if his life was in danger...Or even facing the possibility of a lengthy jail session for felony computer crimes..

From what is apparently a secret recording of Wheeler made by Butkowski...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p8at6PD4L8


43 posted on 07/15/2019 1:11:37 PM PDT by Eurotwit (FRexit? No. AdiEU. - Loud Mime)
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To: Engedi

Wow. Been doing more research and they apparently have Wheeler
on secret recording talking about the case, and the statements about Aaron are rather astonishing.

He seemed to have gone out of his way to make sure no investigations or even questions were asked about emails...

Aaron, according to Wheeler, had Seth’s computer, but refused to hand it over or talk about it. Sounds like Aaron really did not want anyone to solve the case...

Not too strange perhaps, if his life was in danger...Or even facing the possibility of a lengthy jail session for felony computer crimes..

From what is apparently a secret recording of Wheeler made by Butkowski...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p8at6PD4L8


44 posted on 07/15/2019 1:11:49 PM PDT by Eurotwit (FRexit? No. AdiEU. - Loud Mime)
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To: Eurotwit

Bump.


45 posted on 07/15/2019 1:19:44 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Eurotwit

Who is Wheeler?


46 posted on 07/15/2019 1:29:20 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Eurotwit

Bttt.

5.56mm


47 posted on 07/15/2019 1:31:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: fatima

He is the private investigator who was hired to work for the Rich family paid for by Butkowski. This is all acknowledged.

Wheeler is also a Fox News contributor, hence the connections with Fox you can hear him talk about in the recording.

Here is a vid of him on Hannity, so you can also hear that his voice matches the one from the secret youtube recording...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuRJDKEVxHY


48 posted on 07/15/2019 1:32:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit (FRexit? No. AdiEU. - Loud Mime)
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To: Eurotwit

Thanks :)


49 posted on 07/15/2019 1:34:30 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: VA40

In hiding I should think.


50 posted on 07/15/2019 3:48:37 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: mass55th

“Questions I have never seen an answer to: Did any of those other robberies result in the victims being injured or murdered?”

This is a political hit that “sends a message loud & clear” to certain people while still able to be passed off as a garden-variety stickup.


51 posted on 07/15/2019 3:55:53 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: yesthatjallen
If I remember correctly, after Seth Rich was killed, the police took his home laptop.

Why?

If it was a random 'robbery gone wrong' why would the police take his laptop?

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Why wouldn't they?

They examined his laptop to see if there was anything on it relating to Wikileaks.

Would they be doing their job if they didn't address the conspiracy theories?

Besides, before they could determine that it was a robbery gone wrong, wouldn't they check the laptop to see if anyone had been stalking or threatening him?

There's no indication that they kept the laptop.

52 posted on 07/15/2019 4:10:41 PM PDT by x
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To: Eurotwit

DNC officials knew that the emails would become public as the result of an internal leak, and they knew that the emails would be very damaging, so they attempted to turn the tables by pointing fingers at Donald Trump and the Russians.


53 posted on 07/15/2019 7:23:47 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Eurotwit

I know Ellen a bit. I once worked at a radio station where she had a show. She’s nice, but she’s a crazy liberal.

This tends to confirm all the rumors that Seth Rich was the source. They need to subpoena his brother.


54 posted on 07/16/2019 9:19:10 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: mass55th

In a way, it’s better that these things are coming out from Democrats. I can tell you that among the Bernie supporters, many believe Seth was the emails leaker. And that he was murdered by the Clinton machine.


55 posted on 07/16/2019 10:23:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: hoosiermama

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D.C. cops explains more!


56 posted on 07/21/2019 11:47:19 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Debbie Weisseerrrrrman Schultz Bro is big in DC police department!
(How convenient !).


57 posted on 07/21/2019 12:49:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: hoosiermama

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How indeed!


58 posted on 07/22/2019 8:29:29 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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