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Emboldened by Trump, Proud Boys’ confrontations raise concerns in the Northwest
The Seattle Times ^ | July 13, 2018 | Hal Bernton

Posted on 07/13/2018 9:57:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Proud Boys, a right-wing men’s group, is claiming a higher profile role in the region, with two members involved in a confrontation outside the Vancouver Mall that raised concerns for some about a miscarriage of justice.

VANCOUVER, Clark County — Mykel Mosley walked out of the Vancouver Mall and saw something that made him angry: a pickup flying what he says was a Donald Trump flag.

The African-American teenager yelled out an obscenity about Trump.

Two men got out of the truck, and chased Mosley, one of them spinning him briefly to the ground.

A video, posted online, shows some of the May 11 confrontation and its aftermath — including Mosley’s being turned over by mall guards to police who arrested him.

The man who grabbed Mosley was identified by the Clark County prosecuting attorney as Tusitala “Tiny” Toese. Another man, Donovon Flippo, through a posting from his Facebook account, says he joined in the pursuit of Mosley.

Both men describe themselves as members of the Proud Boys, a right-wing fraternal group that says its members are “Western chauvinists who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.” Its website lists eight ways to “save America.” Among them: “give everyone a gun,” “venerate the housewife,” “shut down the government.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: antifa; homosexualagenda; proudboys; russianpropaganda; trump; wash
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
all I know is the Seattle Times to my knowledge has never exposed, criminalized,belittled, scorned, derided,or damned the black masked nazi's carrying weapons....not once...

yet some little confrontation has got them in crisis mode...

its okay for the little nazi's to beat up, or steal from or shout down or disrupt the normal people but my Lord, don't let anyone confront them back....

21 posted on 07/13/2018 11:48:19 PM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

they sorta remind me of the guardian angels-


22 posted on 07/14/2018 12:31:39 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: 21twelve
There were quite a few of them at the Portland rally with masks and goggles. Some of them looked as goofy as the Antifa folks. (Actually, the Proud Boys looked goofier - the Antifa with their all-black attire are at least color coordinated.)

That was protection from metal pipes and pepper spray. The point is they don't purposely hide their faces as Antifa does.

And they don't look at all goofy, not in the face of the fascists Antifa.

23 posted on 07/14/2018 1:03:33 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: 21twelve; ransomnote
Proud of your boy.

#ProudBoys

Bagster


24 posted on 07/14/2018 1:37:48 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t know anything about them other than having seen a video of one of them deliver a well-deserved punch to the face of a leftwing loon that had just attacked him with a metal rod or pipe.

It was beautiful to behold, I don’t care who they are.

Now if they are dead serious about being chauvinistic [rather than chivalrous] and wanting to shut down government [anarchy rather than reduce its size and power], then they are not a good group, though so long as they do not initiate violence they have a right to express their opinions and their right should be defended. I like chivalrous males, but have no interest in “golden cagers” - chauvinistic anarchists - as that is essentially what a jihadist is.

But whichever they are, they are undoubtedly useful for the purposes of preventing the radical, violent left from shutting down free speech in this country. So enjoy the show.


25 posted on 07/14/2018 3:40:33 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: grimalkin
How can you not love a guy with the name Rufio Panman?

Bangarang, baby!


26 posted on 07/14/2018 3:45:03 AM PDT by Salamander (I ride all night and I travel in fear, that in this darkness, I will disappear...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bttt


27 posted on 07/14/2018 3:49:14 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: grimalkin

He had every right to drop that chick as well


28 posted on 07/14/2018 3:56:29 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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To: PCPOET7

I’m sure they have been infiltrated already.


29 posted on 07/14/2018 4:03:44 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: PCPOET7

I’m sure they have been infiltrated already.


30 posted on 07/14/2018 4:03:44 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like we’ll have to wait and see if they were justified by him initiating violence or charging towards them brandishing his fists ...or if they were violating the idiot mall-goer’s mere use of speech rights.

He does have a right to express his opinion about Trump, though I would think he had to get fairly close to them to be heard, and since he was using obscenities, I would take a “Borkian” view that the use of obscenities is threatening. If he approached a family while he was shouting obscenities how could it not be interpreted as threatening?

I think Bork was right about civility. The lack of civility is destructive to those very rights of free speech that obscene people like to tout.

If he hadn’t used obscenities, it would be easier to sympathize with him. Th more often someone being uncivil gets it in the kisser, the sooner we can return to civil discourse and debate rather than raw emotionalism.


31 posted on 07/14/2018 4:07:26 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What an agenda-ridden biased piece of “reporting!”

no proper if of what the SPLC actually is, snide comment about the yt clips being ‘out of order’, etc etc.

The stench is strong from this one.


32 posted on 07/14/2018 4:10:09 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine. #FreeTommy)
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To: piasa

https://www.firstthings.com/article/1995/06/001-hard-truths-about-the-culture-war


33 posted on 07/14/2018 4:13:22 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Emboldened by Trump, Proud Boys’ confrontations raise concerns in the Northwest

More like:

Traumatized by reality, anti-Trump snowflake challenges some men he wasn't able to handle - thank God for him that they didn't maim him....

34 posted on 07/14/2018 4:49:56 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: steve86

You know, Steve, that is the kind of post that can follow you around for a long time.

So, when did you become aware of the fact that NASA was hiding the truth about the Martians?

(If that is a clipboard buffer error, I don’t want to know what you have been reading!)


35 posted on 07/14/2018 5:08:26 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tiny speaks his mind
36 posted on 07/14/2018 5:40:39 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Knocked him out cold, AND took his baton. #WINNING


37 posted on 07/14/2018 5:53:33 AM PDT by macrahanish #1
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To: cherry

yep!

Sounds like the “mommy, Bobby hit me second” argument


38 posted on 07/14/2018 6:00:00 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer ("The past does not have to define the future")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My! but we hear a lot of bio on each individual Proud Boy. Fine. You don’t hear much if anything about WHO is ANTIFA or BLM etc


39 posted on 07/14/2018 6:20:53 AM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Anyone know much about them or know some members?

It is a group ( club ) srtarted by Gavin McInnes a few years ago. Her eis a video of him explaining what they are:

Gavin McInnes Explains What 'The Proud Boys' Are

40 posted on 07/14/2018 6:27:05 AM PDT by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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