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Utah ‘Monument’ Was a Reward to a Clinton Donor
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-07-17 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 12/07/2017 8:45:02 AM PST by Starman417

The shrinking in size of two national monuments in Utah by President Trump through executive order was a long overdue rebuke to federal land grabs that have given federal control to vast swaths of American land, particularly in the West. As the New York Times noted in 2016:

The United States government owns 47 percent of all land in the West. In some states, including Oregon, Utah and Nevada, the majority of land is owned by the federal government. Of course, it used to own nearly all of it...

East of the Mississippi…the federal government owns only 4 percent of land.

Part of that discrepancy is to due the vagaries of the Western expansion into the sparely populated frontier. Part of it is due to the desires of environmentalists to turn America into a save-the-earth postcard – take pictures and don’t touch. President Trump, who has unlocked much of America’s resources that were formerly held hostage by greenies and others, has decided to return to the people of Utah control of and decision-making power over the land of Utah, so you no longer need permission from a Beltway bureaucrat to pick up a rock and move it one foot to the left:
President Trump signed two proclamations Monday that shrink federally protected lands in Utah by about 2 million acres — the largest rollback of national monument designations in history.

The Bears Ears National Monument will shrink 85% to 201,876 acres, and the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument will be cut by 39% to 1 million acres….

Trump said previous presidents overstepped their authority in declaring vast tracts of western lands off-limits, abusing the "purpose, spirit and intent" of a 1906 law known as the Antiquities Act. That law requires presidents to limit the monument designation to "the smallest area compatible with proper care and management of the objects to be protected."

"These abuses of the Antiquities Act give enormous power to faraway bureaucrats at the expense of the people who actually live here, work here, and make this place their home," Trump said in Salt Lake City Monday.

One of those presidents was one William Jefferson Clinton. Although the Trump orders only refer to lifting restrictions on motorized vehicles and grazing rights, much of the land involved is energy-rich and was put off limits by President Clinton to deprive Americans access to those resources and to reward a political donor.

A large part of America’s energy dependence on foreign sources can be traced back to September 18, 1996, when her co-president hubby Bill Clinton stood on the edge of the Grand Canyon on the Arizona side and signed an executive proclamation making 1.7 million acres of Utah a new national monument, the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument:

President Clinton officially set aside 1.7 million acres of Utah canyon lands Wednesday as a national monument, with some concessions to Utah authorities who complained the move would stunt the local economy and block a job-generating coal mine.

Standing against the sweeping backdrop of the Grand Canyon, Clinton declared that in creating the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument "we are keeping faith with the future. . . . On this remarkable site, God's handiwork is everywhere."

But officials trod carefully around the issue of the planned coal mine, which was to be dug by Andalex Resources, a Dutch company, on a leased site on the Kaiparowits Plateau, considered one of the new monument's most remote and valuable sites. Under current plans, 50% of the coal mined from the plateau would be exported from the Port of Los Angeles.

In his remarks, Clinton implied that he intended to block the mine, which some have said could produce high quality coal with a value of $1 trillion.

So why would he dedicate a Utah monument while standing in Arizona? Well, this federal land grab was done without any consultation with the governor of Utah or any member of the Utah congressional delegation or any elected official in the state. The state already had six national monuments, two national recreation areas, and all or part of five national forests. Three-quarters of Utah was in already in federal hands.

It was sold as a move to protect the environment. At the time the Clintons were worried that Ralph Nader’s presence on the ballot in a few Western states would draw green votes from Clinton in a race that promised to be close after the GOP retook Congress two years earlier.

Bill Clinton's unilateral land grab in Utah declaring 1.7 million acres a national monument and placing off-limits to an energy starved United States up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion that could have been mined with minimal surface impact was in fact a political payoff to the family of James Riady.

James Riady was the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. Young James was found guilty of and paid a multi-million dollar fine for funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential run. Connect the dots. The relationship between the Clintons, would be long and corrupt even extending to donations to the Clinton Foundation.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aljazeeragore; andalexresources; antiquitiesact; arizona; bearsears; california; clinton; clintonfoundation; coaldetat; deplorables; grandstaircase; jamesriady; jazeeraalgore; kaiparowitsplateau; kanecounty; lippobank; lippogroup; losangeles; mittromney; mochtarriady; netherlands; quidprocoal; ralphnader; ryanzinke; utah

1 posted on 12/07/2017 8:45:03 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

The Feds “own” 87% of Nevada. 75% of Utah. 60% of Oregon...and amazingly, ~35% of California.

This must end.


2 posted on 12/07/2017 8:50:43 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Starman417

Change Denali back into Mount McKinley!


3 posted on 12/07/2017 8:51:16 AM PST by gaijin (Basically Obama lawyers would blatantly make up some totally groundless allegation against a fat cas)
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To: Starman417

Was this the ‘act’ that put stone-washed jeans out of business?


4 posted on 12/07/2017 8:52:24 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Starman417

The Lippo group, a major campaign donor to Billy Clinton, owns some low-sulphur coal-rich land in Indonesia, which became more valuable when Clinton took Utah’s coal off line.


5 posted on 12/07/2017 8:59:33 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (SCHLONGED: How Donald Trump Beat My Lying, Marxist Ass and Went On to Win the November Election. HRC)
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To: Starman417

“We won. You lost. Get over it.”

B Hussein Obama


6 posted on 12/07/2017 9:01:55 AM PST by simpson96
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To: Mariner

10.0% of Michigan, but 5.4% of South Dakota...


7 posted on 12/07/2017 9:03:40 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Starman417

Cad’s Crotch strikes again;

https://business.highbeam.com/435553/article-1G1-57264786/acres-controversy-president-clinton-decision-designate


8 posted on 12/07/2017 9:07:39 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Starman417.
So why would he dedicate a Utah monument while standing in Arizona? Well, this federal land grab was done without any consultation with the governor of Utah or any member of the Utah congressional delegation or any elected official in the state. The state already had six national monuments, two national recreation areas, and all or part of five national forests. Three-quarters of Utah was in already in federal hands. It was sold as a move to protect the environment. At the time the Clintons were worried that Ralph Nader’s presence on the ballot in a few Western states would draw green votes from Clinton in a race that promised to be close after the GOP retook Congress two years earlier. Bill Clinton's unilateral land grab in Utah declaring 1.7 million acres a national monument and placing off-limits to an energy starved United States up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion that could have been mined with minimal surface impact was in fact a political payoff to the family of James Riady. James Riady was the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. Young James was found guilty of and paid a multi-million dollar fine for funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential run. Connect the dots. The relationship between the Clintons, would be long and corrupt even extending to donations to the Clinton Foundation.

9 posted on 12/07/2017 9:11:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

This river of Shiite is deep and wide.


10 posted on 12/07/2017 9:15:51 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Starman417
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11 posted on 12/07/2017 9:16:40 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

“The Lippo group, a major campaign donor to Billy Clinton, owns some low-sulphur coal-rich land in Indonesia, which became more valuable when Clinton took Utah’s coal off line.”

Someone should explain all this to the asshole Michael Savage. While bitterly complaining about San Francisco he tenaciously lives there. He came out against semi autos and regular magazines, he raged against making Jerusalem the capitol, and bitterly opposed Trump giving this land back to Utah. His New York roots are coming out.


12 posted on 12/07/2017 9:19:52 AM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: Mariner
"The Feds “own” 87% of Nevada. 75% of Utah. 60% of Oregon...and amazingly, ~35% of California"

Look at a map of Alaska. Roughly the same amount of government owned land as Nevada. And tons of that is tied up in "Wilderness Areas" that you can't even fly over.

13 posted on 12/07/2017 9:33:30 AM PST by redhead (Pray for children in pedophile pipeline, destined for neglect, torture, and even sacrifice...)
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To: redhead; All

Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater first came to prominence as leaders of The Sagebrush Rebellion.

That was an effort to turn these lands over to the respective states for development.

What once was old, is new again:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagebrush_Rebellion

Check out the map at the above link. Full 1/3 of the western US is out of service and over half of Alaska too.

What would be the wealth of this nation if we were allowed to develop and use these lands? They are NOT without worth.


14 posted on 12/07/2017 9:54:52 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Starman417

Clinton? How much cash was exchanged?


15 posted on 12/07/2017 10:45:08 AM PST by GOPJ (Katie Couric - do a 'special' on NBC women who 'put out' to move up the corporate ladder...)
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To: Mariner

I saw a map months ago which had that kind of info. I was absolutely shocked. Why does the government need that much land? It showed that not very much east of the Mississippi River. People need to be informed.


16 posted on 12/07/2017 10:50:13 AM PST by MamaB (Heb :)
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To: Starman417
It was sold as a move to protect the environment. At the time the Clintons were worried that Ralph Nader’s presence on the ballot in a few Western states would draw green votes from Clinton in a race that promised to be close after the GOP retook Congress two years earlier.

As I recall they cut a tree to afford a better photo opp.

17 posted on 12/07/2017 11:13:28 AM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: itsahoot

Bookmark


18 posted on 12/07/2017 12:06:28 PM PST by publius911 (CBS: "Asking the right questions is 100% of catching sexual abusers")
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To: Mariner
"What would be the wealth of this nation if we were allowed to develop and use these lands? They are NOT without worth."

I'm a firm believer that the land belongs in private ownership. The government could probably come close to retiring the national debt by selling off it's "useless" real estate.

19 posted on 12/08/2017 4:50:59 PM PST by redhead (Pray for children in pedophile pipeline, destined for neglect, torture, and even sacrifice...)
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To: Starman417

After this deal, the Clinton crime family figured out that direct donations to the campaign coffers were too open to scrutiny for bribery charges due to the public nature of campaign financing.

So in the Uranium One affair, the money went through a cut out to the Clinton Foundation. Who says a criminal can’t learn a new M.O? These crooks move with the times and learn from mistakes.


20 posted on 12/10/2017 10:30:15 PM PST by wildbill
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