Posted on 07/12/2017 11:53:45 AM PDT by Starman417
The general consensus is that Donald Trump Jr. acted unwisely in meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. He did it in person and he left an email trail. Having said that, there is a whole lot more to this story and you best wait for all the shoes to drop.
And they are dropping. Let's take things piece at a time.
An interview with Veselnitskaya on NBC this morning went like this:
MOSCOW — The Russian lawyer who met with Donald Trump Jr. during the presidential campaign denied in an exclusive interview with NBC News that she had any connection to the Kremlin and insisted she met with President Donald Trump’s son in 2016 to discuss sanctions between Russia and the U.S., not to hand over information about Hillary Clinton’s campaign.Actually, it did not contradict Trump Jr. whatsoever. Junior released the email chain and here it is“I never had any damaging or sensitive information about Hillary Clinton. It was never my intention to have that,” Natalia Veselnitskaya said.
Her account appeared to contradict that of Trump Jr., who said on Sunday that the premise of the meeting was to discuss damaging information on Clinton that the lawyer was offering. When asked how Trump Jr. seemed to have the impression that she had information about the Democratic National Committee, she responded:
“It is quite possible that maybe they were longing for such an information. They wanted it so badly that they could only hear the thought that they wanted.”
The email clearly suggests that Hillary Clinton was colluding with the Russians. There is a problem- there is no such thing as a "crown prosecutor" but Veselnitskaya once worked as a Russian prosecutor. Veselnitskaya had been denied a visa to enter the US but someone in the obama administration granted her a parole letter so she could defend a company called Prevezon Holdings. Somewhere between January and June 9, 2016, Veselnitskaya veered off her course of defending Prevezon Holdings. When she met with Junior she turned the meeting into a discussion of repealing the Magnitsky Act.
During the meeting Veselnitskaya raised the issue of restoring U.S. adoptions inside Russia if the United States would repeal the Magnitsky Act, a law passed in 2012 punishing Moscow for human rights violations in connection with the death of a lawyer who had discovered a massive money laundering scheme inside the country.That's really interesting because Putin hates the Magnitsky Act, which was passed to punish Moscow for the death of Sergei Magnitsky.
Vladimir Putin has long reviled the Magnitsky Act and fought to have it repealed. And according to letter from Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Charles Grassley, the Kremlin’s main fight against the law was led by Veselnitskaya’s client, Katsyv.That would be Denis Katsyv, the owner of Prevezon Holdings, who is being sued by the US for money laundering:
Most notably, Veselnitskaya represented Denis Katsyv, the son of a senior government official and owner of Russian real estate firm Prevezon, which was sued in 2013 by then-Manhattan US Attorney Preet Bharara on charges of laundering money in a massive Russian government tax scam.As a counter punch, Putin suspends the adoption of Russian babies by US citizens.
Enter Rob Goldstone, the author of the email to Junior.
It was at a beauty pageant in Moscow in 2013 that the Trump's met the Agalarov family. Rob Goldstone is the publicist for billionaire Aras Agalarov's son Emin. Goldstone was also the broker for the meeting between Junior and Veselnitskaya. Then Agalarov's are said to have close ties to Vladimir Putin and Goldstone has strong ties to the Agalarov's.
So what's going on?
Congress passes the Magnitsky Act as a response to the "Magnitsky Affair":
The scam is also known as the Magnitsky affair, named after Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer for American investment fund manager Bill Browder who is widely believed to have been tortured and killed in a Russian prison after exposing the $230 million fraud.Putin fights to have it repealed and responds by suspending the adoption of Russian babies. Denis Katsyv is the main principal in that fight.After Magnitsky's death, Browder sought justice for his former attorney in the US and Europe and, in 2012, Congress passed the Magnitsky Act, which froze the assets of and denied visas to 44 Russian businessmen believed to have been involved in Magnitsky's death.
US Attorney Preet Bharara sues Katsyv and Prevezon.
Natalia Veselnitskaya is dispatched allegedly to defend Prevezon and Katsyv.
She meets with Junior about the repeal of the Magnitsky Act. Remember this from above?
"During the meeting Veselnitskaya raised the issue of restoring U.S. adoptions inside Russia if the United States would repeal the Magnitsky Act"By what authority would she be able to offer the deal? Something like that would have to come from very high up despite Veselnitskaya denying any connection to the Kremlin.
Now for the fun part.
It is asserted that Prevezon hired one Fusion GPS:
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...
How’d she get a visa?
And for what?
from Grassley’s letter:
{not in letter: Oct, 2015 - Vaselnitskaya given ‘parole visa’ until Jan, 2016, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul Monteleoni }
Dec 17, 2015 - the Global Magnitsky Bill is passed by Senate
Dec 2015 - Chaika denounces the Magnitsky Act
Jan, 2016 - Vaselnitskaya files for, is rejected, and then granted a visa to defend a client, Preveson, being sued by the Justice Dept
{not in the letter but to be noted: May 12, 2017, the Department of Justice abruptly settles for a nominal judgement against Preveson}
Feb 18, 2016 - The Human Rights Accountability Global Initiative Foundation (“HRAGIF”), a Delaware NGO, is established. Vaselnitskaya is heavily involved, in fact, “listed as in-house lobbyists on HRAGIF’s LDA filings.”
April, 2016 - 4-person delegation to Russia led by Rohrabacher (R, CA)
Apr 13, 2016 - Russian TV airs docu-fantasy, Vaselnitskaya was involved in content and promoting. “Natalia Veselnitskaya played a key role in organising screenings of the film. “ Subsequent “European Parliament” airing was cancelled.
May 18, 2016 - Global Magnitsky Bill scheduled for markup. Amendment to remove Magnitsky from the name is tabled by Rohrabacher.
{not in letter: Late May? or abt Jun 14? - Vaselinskaya was a dinner guest of Rohrabacher at the Capitol Hill Club with approx. 20 other individuals}
May 31, 2016 - Sergey Lavrov denounces the Magnitsky Act.
{June 9, 2016 - Meeting with Don Jr. Goldstone has since stated that his music star client, Emin Agalarov, had pressed him to set up a meeting. Don Jr expressed in an email he’d want to meet/talk with Emin first.}
June 11,16,20;, 2016 - “In its registration forms that were filed on 11, 16 and 20 June 2016, HRAGIF states that its current and anticipated specific lobbying issues are “foreign adoption issues.”
June 13, 2016 - Washington screening of the docu-fantasy at “Newseum” . Invitations noted that attending didn’t violate ‘gift rules’.
June 14, 2016 - Hoover Institution fellow Michael McFaul testifies before the House Foreign Affairs Committee meeting. Attended by Andrea Nekrasov, Natalia Veselnitskaya and Rinat Akhmetshin. (see also page 8, E, i and ii, - re: Veselnitskaya in violation of FARA)
From The Hill:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341788-exclusive-doj-let-russian-lawyer-into-us-before-she-met-with-trump
“Sources close to the lobbying effort to rename the Magnisky Act, conducted over the summer of 2016, said it fizzled after only a month or two. They described Veselnitskaya, who does not speak English, as a mysterious and shadowy figure. They said they were confused as to whether she had an official role in the lobbying campaign, although she was present for several meetings.
“The sources also described their interactions with Veselnitskaya in the same way that Trump Jr. did. They claimed not to know who she worked for or what her motives were.
“Natalia didn’t speak a word of English,” said one source.
marry the above to
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3568518/posts?page=80#80
and, I should add, Rohrabacher was probably also a target for discrediting at the same time as DJ
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-trump-rohrabacher-20170315-story.html
Actually the quoted "Crown Prosecutor. . ." comes from Rob Goldstone's email to Donald Trump Jr. I see no problem with a British subject using the British/UK title for a government prosecuting attorney as a substitute for the attorney's unknown Russian title since she worked in a similar position in Russia. We'd likely call her the Russian District Attorney, being equally ignorant of the Russian title. The kookie media is trying to make it into a red flag that Trump Jr. Should have spotted that would have made a "smarter" person or a "more experienced" political operative suspicious of a "set-up. (These are, of course, stated with a snide wink, as if we all know that Don isn't too bright, having obviously gotten where he is purely through nepotism, riding Daddy's coat tails.) I strongly disagree. It was a casual email between acquaintances, one of whom was a Brit, for Pete's sake. One reads emails for quick content, glossing over such trivial things and doesn't put them under an electron microscope seeking hidden agendas. The context of those emails between Trump Jr., and Goldstone demonstrate that Trump did not put a high priority—". . .perhaps later this summer. . ."—on meeting with this Russian lawyer. It was Goldstone who pushed for an earlier meeting, while Don preferred to phone Emin to find out the lowdown instead.
I'm also not surprised that Goldstone might have told Don Trump Jr. something completely different to secure the meeting with the Trump campaign than what Natalia Veselnitskaya had told him she wanted to discuss. Certainly the repeal of the obscure Magnitsky Act, a repeal that either Trump Jr. or Sr. could do little to affect for months, if at all, would not have been a compelling reason for anyone to take time from a very busy schedule to meet with an obscure Russian lawyer, but juicy dirt on your dad's opponent? Just the thing to open the door enough for a salesman record producer to stick his foot in to prevent the jamb from being slammed shut in their face! "See, Natalia, Baby, I told you I could get you a face-to-face. Old Rob found a hook that got you in, but it's up to you to sell it! You gotta close the deal."
If it was a Russian set up it was ham handed and lame. It seems today that there was more DNC involvement than Russians in play. Serious question - how did this person get into the country and who made that possible?
I am in Rohrbacher's CA District....
Very interesting.
I am in Rohrbacher's CA District....
Very interesting.
And she stayed here 5 months beyond her visa exp oration.
George Webb on his daily youtube made mention of the Russian Lady lawyer....
Day 265.2. Hillary's Leakers Hackers and Henchmen George Webb
He mentions that supposed she speaks o English...and she should have registered as a Foreign Agent is she is going to lobby the US Government.
Do listen to his youtube ....
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